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Bringing a dog to work

Discussion in 'Workplace dilemmas' started by riddikulus, Jul 15, 2017.

  1. DYNAMO67

    DYNAMO67 Lead commenter

    My issues are nothing to do with fear. It is a workplace and therefore pets have no place in it. It is a distraction from what you are there to do. That is work. It just isn't needed.

    For those for whom fear is an option, it should be their choice how to handle it. It is a shame that they miss out on the positive sides of dogs, but that isn't your call to make. If they were a policeman/woman who had to work with dogs as part of their job, I agree, then socialisation at work would be a positive. It is not a scenario needed in a FE college though.
  2. DYNAMO67

    DYNAMO67 Lead commenter

    Not at all comparable.
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  3. Sundaytrekker

    Sundaytrekker Star commenter

    Secretsiren has eloquently explained just why children and adults should not be forced to endure dogs in schools or any workplace. It is totally unacceptable to expect others to have to deal with your pet. I haven't had her experience but I still do not wish to share my living space at home or at work with a dog. This shouldn't be inflicted on staff or children. Dog lovers can enjoy their pets out of school.
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  4. Landofla

    Landofla Established commenter

    @secretsiren @DYNAMO67
    Your situations are examples of the few not the many. As mentioned previously, I believe we shouldn't let fear limit out actions.

    I have seen first hand how dog therapy works for children with SEN. The changes seen in children with PMLD brought tears to my eyes.
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  5. DYNAMO67

    DYNAMO67 Lead commenter

    I haven't had a scenario. It is common sense. I don't go to the supermarket and see a dog on the checkout. I don't go to the doctor and see a dog in reception. I don't go to the airport and see the pilot's German Shepard in the cockpit. This is the same scenario. Dog therapy is a different discussion. Not one related to the original dilemma. It isn't relevant to this argument at all.

    This is about a person wanting to take their dog to work.

    Now, if the OP was going to be a therapist, and wanted to take her dog as part of her work then we have a different discussion. There is no evidence that this is the case here though, is there?
  6. Landofla

    Landofla Established commenter

    @DYNAMO67 that was the point I originally made though so as far as my contributions to the thread, I have advocating that the OP undergoes training.

    I would much prefer everyone to bring their pet to sch than their children, which by the way, even on supply, I have experienced many times.

    Just because you don't see it in your life, doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. If everyone lived life according to your theory, then what a boring, stifled life that would be.
  7. ld7675

    ld7675 New commenter

    I had a look around at a school where the head brought his dog in, which was lovely. I would love to bring my dog into work but then so would the other 5 teachers who also have dogs. My own primary school's head used to bring her dogs in as well, if you were register monitor you got to take them for a walk round the field at breaktime. I think it's a perk of being a head and agree to the religious groups comment - several children in my class are brought up to believe that some animals are dirty.
  8. theworm123

    theworm123 Lead commenter

    They are disgusting creatures and they have no place in the professional workplace like @DYNAMO67 said. I'm not sure what it is with some dog owners insisting that they must take them everywhere they go.
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  9. DYNAMO67

    DYNAMO67 Lead commenter

    See, I like animals. Despite always having cats, I have no issues with dogs. They are hard work though and this idea that you just take a dog into work with you, and carry on as normal is bonkers to me, sorry.
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  10. DYNAMO67

    DYNAMO67 Lead commenter

    Tad presumptuous and unnecessary there...

    It isn't boring at all, it is sensible, fair to everyone and proper not to have pets in work. Same as me not bringing along a bottle of wine for my lunch, even if it does stifle the workplace....

    Children are presumably only there infrequently when other options aren't available. What do you expect a parent to do with them?.
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  11. Landofla

    Landofla Established commenter

    @DYNAMO67 you said you don't see it at the checkout, in the cockpit etc... I went on what you said.

    A dog, unlike wine, will not render you unable to work.

    I think having pets in schools is sensible, fair and proper. I got bit by my school pet and still think it's a great idea.

    The same thing you expect a parent to do with a dog.

    Nothing more to add to this thread now as it has gone far off topic and my opinion will not be changed.
  12. Alldone

    Alldone Senior commenter

    Love this thread - I like dogs but many people have allergies or are nervous around dogs so I don't think they should be brought in to school. Our HT had two dogs and a cat at our Indie school. The dogs were kept in the HT's front garden, fenced off from the rest of the school, but the cat seemed to treat the whole school as its own territory.
    This thread got me thinking about a visit a colleague and I made to a large Indie school for an IT meeting a few years back. It was taking place before their term actually started, and as we came in to the school there were loads of 4 by 4s and trailers coming in to the grounds. When I asked what was happening they said "Oh its just the girls bringing their horses in before term starts"
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  13. debwilliamson

    debwilliamson New commenter

    I reiterate, want to see disgusting creatures? Go to the beach, a concert, riverside or city. Human kind - yuk!!!!
  14. sabrinakat

    sabrinakat Star commenter

    I knew when having a tour of my current school on interview day that staff could bring their dogs with them as there were kennels and lots of rural parkland for them to enjoy. A few staff members bring their dogs into their classrooms but they are extremely well behaved. There are other staff dogs that can be very 'affectionate' but their owners/parents know that I am very uncomfortable with big, too friendly dogs and make sure that the dogs are fully restrained. I will, on occasion, pet the dogs but the two that are sometimes inside (1-2 days a week) never approach unless I appproach them.

    It's a rural school and I knew that staff could bring their dogs but the majority of the day they are in their kennels. SLT have reminded staff of this. I am honest that I get a bit scared of the dogs but it isn't a huge issue.

    The issue the OP stated is, however, very different. If I were visiting in their office and a dog was there, I would feel uncomfortable (just how big is this office?); I completely understand why some posters are anxious and worried.

    Dogs that are used for SEN, etc., are a completely different situation.
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  15. harsh-but-fair

    harsh-but-fair Star commenter

    Oh dear.
  16. lilachardy

    lilachardy Star commenter

    A dog would render me unable to work.
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  17. theworm123

    theworm123 Lead commenter

    Well I take it you're a human? When was the last time you openly defecated in the street or bit someone? Or mauled a baby to death?
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  18. Piranha

    Piranha Star commenter

    Not the same as this, but how do people cope when a guide dog is needed? There was a student at my school with one - no issues apart from stopping the younger students treating her as a pet, but there could be people with fears or allergies.
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  19. bombaysapphire

    bombaysapphire Star commenter

    You visited Mallory Towers :D? I am green with jealousy.

    One of my dogs has been assessed and passed as a therapy dog. I still wouldn't take her to work. I am too busy to see to her needs during the working day. She stays home with her doggie companion and the dog walker comes to take them out.
  20. frustum

    frustum Star commenter

    As I say, this is one I worry about. I would dose up on antihistamines, do what I could to ensure I didn't have to be too near unless giving individual help, and put up with the headache, which hopefully shouldn't be too bad if I took those precautions. In a school, it's entirely possible that it could be organised that I didn't teach that student's group.

    I don't know about others with fears - I'm just nervous rather than afraid - but I have no worries around guide dogs on that score, as they are so well trained.

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