Milky Bar Kid - good post, couldn't agree with you more. "why aren't we sticking up for these pupils" and "we have threads on here blaming the pupils" beggars belief. All pupils are treated with the same approach to discipline and behaviour in all schools I have worked in: that's what is called "pupil support". Root cause of classroom problems are pupils, ergo tackle that (and effectively) and problem contained or eradicated. Poverty is not the responsibility of schools or teachers and we can do nothing about eradicating poverty other than teach children. "I feel for the good kids that genuinely value education who are losing out" summarises the reality of today's classroom, and the sentiments of nearly all teachers. We all know where the majority of our tax dollars are going in education, and it ain't working. I, for one, hugely resent it. Socialism does not work.