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Brexit

Discussion in 'Teaching abroad' started by Mermaid7, Dec 21, 2019.

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  1. 576

    576 Established commenter

    TV

    But Dec 2019 wasn't the Brexit referendum.
    It was a general election.
    You were supposed to vote for who you want as MP for the next 4 years, not whether or not you like the referendum result.
     
  2. 576

    576 Established commenter

    You can have dual citizenship of Ireland and the UK.
    I suspect no one is giving anything up!
    Though I did work with a Brit who had married a Kenyan and was willing to give up their British citizenship if they could get Kenyan.
     
  3. tb9605

    tb9605 Established commenter

    I haven't read any comment on this thread or other threads on this forum about Brexit in which a poster has suggested that the Leave vote be ignored.

    We are getting used to it. That doesn't mean we have to like it, nor does it mean we have to shut up. If Remain had won, would Farage and his ilk quieltly siddled off stage left? No. Would I have expected them to? No.

    That's the point about democracy: you can freely voice your opinions, and when you don't like something, you can agitate for change.

    It's weird how, given that they "won", leavers are always so much touchier in any debate about Brexit. I wonder if it's because you know in your heart of hearts it's ****ing terrible idea.
     
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  4. SecondPlace

    SecondPlace Occasional commenter

    A comment on this bit:

    "The UK abroad teacher... who whilst slagging off their homeland, keeps an iron-clad grip on their UK passport and has the UK Embassy no on their phones, just in case they need someone to help bail them out."

    To echo other posters, UK Embassies are no great help. Also, I have no choice other than to keep a grip on my passport as I don't have the right to another, so other than rendering myself stateless I'm not sure what you would suggest...
     
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  5. SecondPlace

    SecondPlace Occasional commenter

    'If you don't like the political situation in the UK hand your British passport in at the exit gate of the airport of your choice as you leave the country never to return.'

    One wouldn't get far without a passport though. And one would still be British...citizenship confers the right to a passport.
     
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  6. dumbbells66

    dumbbells66 Lead commenter

    Stop using logic with brexiteers, it confuses them.....remember, they think this is a good idea
     
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  7. the hippo

    the hippo Lead commenter Community helper

    One or two people have written some unfair, cruel and nasty comments about British Embassies. The last time I was in one was in Qatar. I needed to get some official stamps on two or three documents. I must say that the chap who put the stamps onto my documents was very quick and efficient. In fact, he hardly even looked at them for more than a second or two before plonking the big stamp on them. He was also very fast when it came to taking my money, about twenty quid per document, for doing almost nothing at all. Great!
     
  8. tb9605

    tb9605 Established commenter

    When my daughter was born in Spain (the care was exceptional and it cost us nothing) I queued for hours at the British Embassy, jumped through several bureaucratic hoops and forked over around £120 to register her as a British citizen.

    I remember thinking "My wife has just saved the NHS/British tax payer around £5000 by giving birth overseas: you ought to be paying us!"
     
  9. dumbbells66

    dumbbells66 Lead commenter

    in the last 12 months, I have had to contact 2 different British embassies for similar reasons. when I asked a question via their online form, the only response I got was "look at our website". when I replied back saying that it did not answer my questions, they responded by saying "look at our website". when I finally asked them if I could talk to someone face to face about my questions, they said, "look at our website"... this is where I gave up with the British embassy. I contacted the Polish embassy and they answered my questions straight away and even offered a face to face meeting.... all in English (and not even in an English speaking country).

    unless it's on their website, forget getting any information or help from the British embassy.
     
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  10. Wotton

    Wotton Lead commenter

    Did you do it with a EHIC card, if you did then Spain claims the cost from the UK.
     
  11. nemo.

    nemo. Occasional commenter

    You are mistaken the NHS DID PAY! The Spanish government would have recharged these costs to the UK as per EU rules. It is just UK politicians who are dumb *****
     
  12. nemo.

    nemo. Occasional commenter

    There are two Brexit options.

    1. Softie Brexit where UK stays closely aligned with EU rules and becomes a EU vassal state.

    2 Crash out Brexit where UK begs USA for a trade deal, that means completely accepting zero tariffs on US food, and becoming a US puppet state. And making most farmers go bankrupt. As well as 2.5 million lost manufacturing jobs (per Economists for Leave).

    Which one did you vote for? There are no other Brexit options. The unicorn is fake.
     
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  13. tb9605

    tb9605 Established commenter

    Nope. We are Spanish tax payers and used our Spanish health service cards.
     
  14. SineField

    SineField Occasional commenter

    Oh no please do feel free..... the idea of having someone trying to convince me that being being part of the EUSSR/4th Reich and having the basic tenets of democracy removed from me (in effect a form of slavery), is so obviously superior to that of an independent democratic state is hysterical, and would be a welcome distraction from eating my turkey and sprouts! And anyway, unlike anti-democrats/ANTIFA types such as yourself, I actively encourage freedom of speech. Fire away!! :D

    Let me guess you're someone that doesn't realise that Hitler (he who wanted to control Europe) was a socialist? Someone that voted Labour or Lib Dems but likes to call anyone on the political right a Nazi? Oh the hilarious irony..... :D I'm presuming your current school doesn't do IQ tests for applicants?

    Its probably for the best you stay in the teaching profession since you'll be surrounded by people of similarly decrepit logic.

    And I'll be checking back with you in ohhhhhh let's say 6 months, to get an update of your change of citizenship. I can't imagine that it will take longer than that to complete..... I mean who wouldn't want such a talent like yourself as part of its nation eh?!? ;)
     
    Last edited: Dec 25, 2019
  15. dumbbells66

    dumbbells66 Lead commenter

    I'm not trying to convince you..... but I am taking great pleasure in winding you up.;)

    it actually takes up to 3 years in Poland, but thanks for asking.

    keep taking the medication o_O

    have a good Christmas
     
    Last edited: Dec 25, 2019
  16. dumbbells66

    dumbbells66 Lead commenter

    just wondering @SineField, there have been a number of Brex-Lunatics like yourself frequenting the overseas forum of late. Are you a little worried that the sunlight uplands and the land of milk and honey that Uncle Nige and Bongo the clown promised you isn't going to immerge?

    looking for an escape from the coming carnage and chaos?
     
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  17. dumbbells66

    dumbbells66 Lead commenter

    Have to correct my auto correct "emerge".
     
  18. percy topliss

    percy topliss Occasional commenter

    What an entertaining thread! I can see discussions such as these going on for the foreseeable future in pubs up and down the country, only to lead to blows being thrown and taken just before last orders...However the deed is done now, the mining communities of the North East have come out in favour of a conservative government in order to eject the potato pickers that do much of the work which native Brits are too lazy to do, job done. Let's get Brexit done, 50 years of famine and my grand kids will possibly get another purple passport at much reduced bonus's for England, and I fear it may be onlyEngland, Ms Sturgeons Scottish breakaway will certainly happen and even the DUP are losing their hold on the 6 counties of Ulster. One thing though, in over 20 years abroad I have never heard a good word about British Embassy staff, lazy and rude is how I normally find them and I certainly wouldn't keep their number in my phone, Amex and Emirates work much better at getting one out of a tight jam.
     
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  19. SecondPlace

    SecondPlace Occasional commenter

    Indeed. Emergency procedures for me are: call the wife, flash the VISA card, jump on a train/plane...

    Also, whatever I think of Brexit the fact is that this is very likely to be a retrograde step for UK nationals working in, or wanting to work in, the EU. Because of the number of years I have lived outside of the UK I didn't get to vote in the referendum, but obviously do have to abide by its consequences.

    I don't have claim on another citizenship/passport, but if I did I would certainly be exploring that option. As it is, I shall be keeping an 'iron-clad grip' on my passport, as it is the only one I have and it still, at the moment, allows me free movement in Europe and employment.

    Onwards and sideways...
     
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  20. briancant

    briancant Occasional commenter

    dumbbells I think you could have a great future as a Guardian columnist.
     

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