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Brexit will be so great and in unrelated news 3500 jobs to go in Swindon

Discussion in 'Personal' started by afterdark, Feb 19, 2019.

  1. afterdark

    afterdark Lead commenter

    All these folks who claimed Brexit will be sooo great...
    A large number of these are now getting nationalities elsewhere.

    And in unrelated news, 3500 jobs to go in Swindon

    "Mr Howells said that, in the light of changes in the industry, the company had to "look very closely" at where it was putting its investment. "It has to be in a marketplace of a size for Honda, where it makes investment worthwhile."

    This seems to rather contradict

    "This is not a Brexit-related issue for us, it's being made on the global-related changes I've spoken about."

    I wonder how the leave voters in Swindon feel now...
    nizebaby and Vince_Ulam like this.
  2. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    Honda's president and CEO, Takahiro Hachigo, stated clearly today that his company's decisions was taken "to reflect stronger demand in Asia and North America".

    So where is the contradiction? Honda seems to be saying that demand in Europe is shrinking, so maintaining manufacture in Europe would be a poor investment decision.
    install, nomad and sparklesparkle like this.
  3. Ivartheboneless

    Ivartheboneless Star commenter

    Will the last company to leave Britain please close the door.

    MAGAorMIGA Star commenter

  5. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    That's a hopelessly confused list, with some of those companies leaving the UK because of Brexit, many of them not leaving because of Brexit, and quite a few not leaving at all but simply nominating a branch in Eire or in Europe as their HQ in order to avoid any interruption to trade in case of no deal.

    I suppose it's what we have to expect from the twittering of Fake News mills these days. :(
    nomad and sparklesparkle like this.
  6. Ivartheboneless

    Ivartheboneless Star commenter

    Dyson went ages ago because he is like Sir Philip Greed and wants to wallow in a swimming pool filled with cash. Smart marketing, overpriced goods.
  7. Mangleworzle

    Mangleworzle Star commenter

    Brexit is going very well, there'll be blue passports and everything.

    Nanook_rubs_it likes this.
  8. afterdark

    afterdark Lead commenter

    Really? We should take the CEO's word for it because...?
  9. Stiltskin

    Stiltskin Star commenter

  10. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    Don't you ever get the feeling guys that we've had enough.

    phlogiston likes this.
  11. colpee

    colpee Star commenter

    I guess an economic decision is also influenced by the new Japan/EU free trade deal which means that Japanese car manufacturers can build their cars somewhere cheaper without being penalised by tariffs when imported to the EU.
  12. Ivartheboneless

    Ivartheboneless Star commenter

    Erm... forgive me bringing this up but didn't the SMMT say that the downturn in sales of cars in the UK was due to uncertainty caused br Brexit? (To be honest car manufacturers are shifting production from "expensive" countries with employment laws to seatshop countries where they can pay the workers half a groat a week, e.g. Poland, Slovakia, Romania, and of course China and India.) But then we will still pay extra to import vehcles from those places.
  13. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    And of course - the brexiteers will be getting the sovereignty that they never lost - back again
  14. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    Yes, I made that very point yesterday.
  15. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    Car sales are stagnating across western Europe. Even the best forecast is for growth of only 1.3% this year:


    As the boss of Honda said, the growth areas are the USA (despite Trump!) and Asia.
  16. install

    install Star commenter

    Project Panic is alive and kicking I see..

    Will you be saying next that you do not believe in the moon landings ...?.
    Or that Japan does not exist ?
    Or that there is no global recession on the way ? ​
  17. Ivartheboneless

    Ivartheboneless Star commenter

    Growth? Why growth? You can only sell so many cars to so many people. That is a flawed economic plan. Once everybody who wants one has got one, what then? They tried it with the (big con) scrappage scheme, which actually exacerbated diesel production falsely so manufacturers went nuts producing diesels which suddenly sensible people do not want (sensible people never did). You are highlighting one of the big flaws in Western capitalism, the constant need for grwoth, and "success" only being measured by growth. Apple have seen this with iPhone demand, Microsoft are seeing it. And we are in an economic downturn (despite the politicians trying to talk it up, just as they did last time). Brexit is exacerbating this and the UK is going to suffer worst for it by shuffling off the level of protection that Europe offered us. We will end up a third world country.
  18. Duke of York

    Duke of York Star commenter

    "We are leaving by our own Accord."
  19. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    It's not project panic - It's project taking the p**s out of people I can't take seriously.
    Mangleworzle likes this.
  20. sodalime

    sodalime Star commenter

    You Amaze me with your Clarity. You're a Legend.
    Duke of York likes this.

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