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Brexit Ferry update

Discussion in 'Personal' started by afterdark, Feb 10, 2019.

  1. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

    It wasn't legal advice and the consultants advised against Seaborne.
    I don't understand your need to change it to fit your narrative.
    You could apply that to many in the public sector.
    sparklesparkle likes this.
  2. sparkleghirl

    sparkleghirl Star commenter

    Ah, so they paid 800 000 of our money for advice then ignored it and went with a company which had no ferries.
    afterdark likes this.
  3. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

    Well not our money, but you have finally got there.
  4. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    They went for two companies (DFDS and Brittany Ferries) with a large number of ferries and considerable experience of Ro-Ro operations. Seaborne would only have handled 10% of the business even if they had leased a vessel or two, and even then only if there was any work for them to do.
    sparklesparkle likes this.
  5. chelsea2

    chelsea2 Star commenter

    Not arguing with any of that - but that still doesn't explain why Seabourne Freight was given a contract when it was clearly not in a position (and was unlikely to reach such a position) to be able to deliver. Surely the government needed a contract with a company which (like DFDS & BF) had 'a large number of ferries and considerable experience of Ro-Ro operations'.
    This isn't the time to be encouraging new small businesses but for ensuring post-Brexit life in Britain carries on as before when it comes to food and other traded goods.

    It begs the question: was SF the best the government could get? If not, what was the reason for choosing them above others?
  6. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

    Civil servants never have to explain unless dragged before a Select Committee
  7. FredfromFrance

    FredfromFrance New commenter

    I just need to say that if civil servants and ministers can get away with this then capabilitying out experienced teachers because they marked a set of books in the wrong coloured pen and dare to be on UPS is even more of a sick, sick joke.

    If accountability is SO important and we all need to be perfect in serving others, then surely this should be even more stringently applied to those at the top?

    Sorry to change the subject a bit, but things are getting tense!
    sparkleghirl and afterdark like this.
  8. Stiltskin

    Stiltskin Star commenter

    Going into conspiracy territory, part of their contact was to operationalise security at the Belgium port. I wonder if that was their actual speciality rather than the ferries
  9. sparklesparkle

    sparklesparkle Established commenter

    What is "the Belgium port", please?

    Why would they "operationalise" security in another country? This doesn't make sense.
  10. afterdark

    afterdark Lead commenter

  11. Stiltskin

    Stiltskin Star commenter

    "Channel 4 News has since revealed that the firm, which plans to operate shipping services from Ramsgate to Ostend in Belgium, will have a big role to play in security at the Belgium port."
  12. sparklesparkle

    sparklesparkle Established commenter

    Do you mean Belgian port?
  13. sparkleghirl

    sparkleghirl Star commenter

    Things must have gone quiet on the UAE MoE threads over on Overseas.
  14. sparklesparkle

    sparklesparkle Established commenter

    First you say you are "bookmarking" my posts and now you are following my activity on other fora. I haven't posted on those threads for a couple of weeks.

  15. monicabilongame

    monicabilongame Star commenter

    And now they've run out of time to sort any extra shipping in the event of a no-deal brexit...

    No “large amount of further additional capacity” will be available across the Channel before the end of March, MPs were told – by either sea or rail.

    “It would not be possible to complete procurement and make it operational for 29 March,” the Department for Transport’s director general admitted.


    So perhaps the supermarket shelves WILL be empty...

    Clare Moriarty, permanent secretary of the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra), denied there would be “food shortages after a no-deal Brexit” – but acknowledged “issues for geographically vulnerable communities”.
  16. EmanuelShadrack

    EmanuelShadrack Star commenter

    Yep - don't believe anything until it's been officially denied.
  17. afterdark

    afterdark Lead commenter

  18. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    I wonder if Grayling will respond by reminding us that Portillo was the Tory who consistently failed to become party leader? After being beaten by Ian Duncan Smith (of all people!) Portillo realised that his future lay in making endless TV programmes about railways. Or perhaps Grayling will be too polite to remind us of Portillo's slide down the greasy pole.

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