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Discussion in 'Personal' started by Vince_Ulam, Mar 10, 2018.
It's a competition for women, not for men.
It’s a competition about the female form;
I thought you could always tell the difference .
No, it's a competition for women.
So, the contestants are judged on the ‘beauty’ of their genitalia or chromosomes?
It is unfortunate that there are people in this world who believe that women are no more than the fact of the genitals which men do not possess.
I believe ‘people are people’ regardless of their genetic make up, and should be treated as such.
So what is it about the the ‘Miss Universe’ contest, that judges something that can only be an attribute of a ‘true’ woman, unless you believe that wanting world peace or ‘...helping deprived children’ is female only?
People are people but men aren't women.
Has someone argued otherwise?
In response to Vince’s straw man post #26.
Yes, post #26 was a straw man.
How are people judged to be men or women?
Edited for clarity: I don't mean DNA or chromosomes, I mean how is it decided whether a baby is a boy or a girl. How do we know whether the person we're talking to is a male or a female?
Simple answer. Yes.
It depends upon who is judging and why.
It is unfortunate that there are people who wish to destroy any vestige of female-only spaces. Wasn't it International Women's Day only this week?
Of interest. https://www.cosmopolitan.com/style-...13/beauty-pageant-scandals-and-controversies/
Vince, Vince! Are you implying that you think Beauty pageants are women only spaces !!? You forget all the leery and dirty old men involved in their administration, led of course by the Donald, heavy breathing over the visual and scheming their way into conjugal relationships. You know, --- the sort of thing that the Donald discusses in the locker room.
Decide what it is you mean and then say how it is relevant to the matter of women only being permitted to enter women's beauty competitions. I might answer.
When we say female-only spaces, we really mean 'spaces for women'. We don't have genital or chromosome checks to enter these spaces. We judge based on appearances.
What is a unfortunate is that some people are only interested in issues that disproportionately affect women when they can use them to support an anti-trans agenda.
You already answered in post 33, thanks.
a straw woman?
Or a straw transgender person?
Well given how the Big Bang produced frak loads of H with some He then most of our atoms were birthed in stars. If we look at things from the formation of our solar system onwards our entire system formed when a nebula/gas cloud collapsed, during planet building most of the matter involved in that was clumped together as rock. Plants are the basis of the food chain here so there’s a good chance a fair chunk of us was plant based for a while. And with the recycling of matter we’ve got atoms that were probably dinosaurs too........and also atoms that have come from dinosaur poop too! Never forget that, you are made from dinosaur poop......also this star dust thing? Sounds pretty but it is effectively just radioactive waste!