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Boycott Brazil

Discussion in 'Personal' started by lanokia, Aug 21, 2019.

  1. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Just a thought but all Brazilian products should be boycotted considering the widespread vandalism being engaged in by their government.

    (Burning of Amazon rainforest)
     
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  2. blue451

    blue451 Senior commenter

    It's horrifying.

    BBC has a good doc at moment about illegal logging in the Amazon and coincidentally Netflix has just lauched its own (fictional) series related to that.
     
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  3. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    If people don't like the idea of boycotting a country then tariff Brazillian trade at 50% and use monies raised to fund reforestation projects.
     
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  4. blue451

    blue451 Senior commenter

  5. Ivartheboneless

    Ivartheboneless Star commenter

    What products (apart from the obvious nuts) come from Brazil? Hard rainforest woods are used very little these days. I think some cars are made there, perhaps some Volkswagens? Fray Bentos products? Samba music? That girl from Ipanema? (She must be 80 by now!)
     
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  6. blue451

    blue451 Senior commenter

    Coffee and lots of fruit.

    Also probably lots of 'hidden' stuff in other products, oils and so on.
     
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  7. primarycat

    primarycat Star commenter

    Soy beans and sugar too.
     
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  8. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Beef seems to be the driver of a lot of the deforestation. So avoiding Brazilian beef (not hard, not seen that in the shops) and Brazilian leather goods.
     
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  9. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Whole rainforest should be declared a global nature reserve plus land lost to farming in last two decades and governorship given to indigenous peoples groups.
     
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  10. primarycat

    primarycat Star commenter

    Corned beef is probably the most commonly sold form of Brazilian beef here.
     
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  11. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

  12. blue451

    blue451 Senior commenter

    But the destruction has sped up under Bolsonaro and the indigenous peoples consider him a grave threat.

    US declares (and demands the rest of the world support) boycotts of Cuba, Iran, Venezuela. Don't hold your breath waiting for a boycott of Brazil.
     
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  13. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Good point... not that I eat a lot of that.
     
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  14. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Don't need leadership from the top... change can come from the bottom too.
     
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  15. blue451

    blue451 Senior commenter

    It can, and has to, but that change can only be effective when there is pressure on those at the top to allow that change.

    eg, it's almost impossible to know whether what I buy from the supermarket contains brazilian sugar, or brazilian soya products because uk manufacturers are under no obligation to boycott or to label products with info re the origin of all ingredients. We can put commercial pressure on them - as with the palm oil issue - but at present it's too easy for companies to hide that kind of info.
     
  16. smoothnewt

    smoothnewt Star commenter

    Iceland have been selling chicken from Brazil for some time. I’ve never bought any as I only buy British meat (don’t eat much meat, so prefer to pay for quality). God knows what conditions Brazilian chickens are raised in. I’d rather not think about it.
     
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  17. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    All good points ... labelling does need to be clearer.
     
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  18. Ivartheboneless

    Ivartheboneless Star commenter

    Volkswagen build T1 and T2 vans in Brazil (those camper vans people love), they are imported to Europe. Fray Bentos products (pies, corned beef) are Brazilian. Go hairy ladies ("Brazilians" are bad). Gold (we might want that), machinery, pharmaceuticals, and pesticides.

    Hiipy dippy types love those VW campers, naughty! (And they have diesel engines).
     
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  19. blue451

    blue451 Senior commenter

    Thing is these fires have been caused deliberately and are part of a plan to destroy the Amazon in the interests of profit. Bolsonaro's political philospophy is such that he sees to problem in relaxing rules which protect the environment in order maximise profit for his friends, allies and supporters. It's not an uncommon attitude among politicians today, the the preotection being removed is not exclusively of the environment - it can be public health or safely, it can be employment or social rights instead.

    At the same time, Evo Morales is commisioning planes to water bomb forest fires to help protect the environment. Two very different politicians with two very different philosophies and very different consequences.

    The problem is the market. The problem is the system. The problem is capitalism.
     
  20. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

    There's always a young and lovely girl from Ipanema going for a walk. They do it so that there's always a young and lovely girl from Ipanema going for a walk.
     

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