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Birthstrike: An eco-cult for damaged people

Discussion in 'Personal' started by Vince_Ulam, Mar 19, 2019.

  1. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

    Population growth is a legitimate concern but it seems to me that many ecological activists are especially vulnerable people who have been poisoned by some seriously deranged ideas:

    BirthStrikers: meet the women who refuse to have children until climate change ends


    'As soon as Blythe Pepino got together with her partner Joshua two years ago, she felt “this overwhelming urge to create a family with him”, she says. “I think it was the fifth day after having met him, I said: ‘I’ve got to meet your parents.’ He was like: ‘You’re mad.’”

    Then, late last year, she attended a lecture held by the direct action group Extinction Rebellion, which set out starkly the catastrophic reality of the changing climate. That galvanised Pepino, an activist and musician (she is the former singer of Vaults, now Mesadorm), to do research of her own and, eventually, to have a series of sad conversations with Joshua.

    “I realised that even though I wanted to have a family at that point, I couldn’t really bring myself to do it,” she says. “I had to say to him: ‘I don’t know if I can do this, considering what we know – if there isn’t a political will to fix this, we really don’t stand much of a chance.’”


    And so Pepino decided to publicly announce her decision – strategically making the personal political – by setting up BirthStrike, a voluntary organisation for women and men who have decided not to have children in response to the coming “climate breakdown and civilisation collapse”. In doing so, she hopes to channel the grief she feels about her decision “into something more active and regenerative and hopeful”. In just two weeks, 140 people, mostly women in the UK, have declared their “decision not to bear children due to the severity of the ecological crisis”, says Pepino. “But we have also had people get in touch to say: ‘Thank you for speaking out about something that I didn’t feel I could even talk to my family about,’” she adds. Many of these BirthStrikers are involved with Extinction Rebellion, which on Saturday threw buckets of red paint outside Downing Street to symbolise “the death of our children” from climate change.'
    TheGuardian.com, 12th March 2019.

    Keep the children in your families & in your schools away from these people & their ilk.
  2. Nanook_rubs_it

    Nanook_rubs_it Star commenter

    A more principled position than the catholic church's stance on birth control.
  3. HelenREMfan

    HelenREMfan Star commenter

    Bonkers. The CND fervent folk who in the 1950s decided not to bring children 8nto a world they thought likely to have a nuclear war....... I have/ had more sympathy with. These folk are just bonkers
    Laphroig, nizebaby and Vince_Ulam like this.
  4. nizebaby

    nizebaby Star commenter

    The poor continue to have children, and the day will probably come when rhe childless rich will exploit them even more.
  5. monicabilongame

    monicabilongame Star commenter

    Why? Do you avoid everyone who has made a decision not to have children?

    How are they bonkers? The effects of climate change are real and happening now.

    lizziescat and border_walker like this.
  6. artboyusa

    artboyusa Star commenter

    If, instead of working to improve yourself and learning how best to live the only life you've got, you really need to give meaning to your existence by attaching yourself to some big cause, crusade or movement - as so many inadequate people do - you really ought to find something a little more worthy of your commitment than this discredited weather cult.
  7. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

    Did you watch the videos?
  8. keyboard2

    keyboard2 Established commenter

    What a surprise you didn't include Islam in your critique.

    FormosaRed likes this.
  9. keyboard2

    keyboard2 Established commenter

    Don't have children if you cannot afford to raise them.

    Very simple.
    border_walker likes this.
  10. Bobbbs

    Bobbbs Occasional commenter

    Good. We've enough nutter genes in the pool already.
  11. Stiltskin

    Stiltskin Star commenter

    Don't have time to watch them all. What I worked out before giving up.

    Scarlett - Hit a deer in her car that made her think she should be a vegan (rather than improve her driving) and is shocked at how agricultural industries operate and hide information from her (that she can only find this out by reading about it!).

    Alice - Geography graduate but knew nothing about environmental issues until she was a Radio producer.
    nomad likes this.
  12. MAGAorMIGA

    MAGAorMIGA Star commenter

    In my view the greatest crisis endangering humanity's future on this planet is not climate change, it's population growth (which itself fuels and exacerbates climate change). The answer to it is to enrich the world's poor and to achieve a truly global socialism instead of global capitalism, which permits a gross inequality in material wellbeing and education. The other great menace is of course organised religion, particularly Islam, the Evangelicals and the Catholic Church, with their grossly irresponsible attitudes towards family planning and birth control.
  13. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

    In full they are by turns heartbreaking and frightening.
    Last edited: Mar 19, 2019
  14. keyboard2

    keyboard2 Established commenter

    Eh? Catholics believe in the family unit.

    Islamism is a threat to the West and peaceful muslims across many Eastern parts of the world.

    Socialism does not work and has failed in every country it has been in place. More socialism would only serve to blight the world of misery and further humanitarian suffering to the most vulnerable on our planet.

    Capitalism has its faults yet it has done more for the world's poor than socialism/communism.
    FormosaRed and border_walker like this.
  15. border_walker

    border_walker Lead commenter

    And the best solution is a reduction in population.
    monicabilongame and install like this.
  16. MAGAorMIGA

    MAGAorMIGA Star commenter

    The world's poorest now are worse off than they were in the 1930s, as the richest 1% engrosses a greater and greater share of the world's wealth. The poorest countries also have the world's highest birth-rates. The lowest birth-rates are in the world's most equal, as well as wealthiest countries. Education, empowerment and equality are the answers, not greater competition, greater capitalism and greater inequality in which the already-poor become poorer and the already-rich get more.

    And I suspect when you and I talk about "socialism" we have in mind different things.
    monicabilongame and bonxie like this.
  17. Aquamarina1234

    Aquamarina1234 Star commenter

    Tell any woman in a misogynistic culture that.
    Tell anyone who lives in a place without social security and pensions.
  18. sparklesparkle

    sparklesparkle Established commenter

    Socialism worked so well in Venezuela. The already-poor have become a lot poorer there. How about Communism in China. The already-poor are no richer and the already-rich have become a very wealthy elite. How did it work in the DDR and the USSR? Communist party operatives became the elite and the poor starved. Tell us one place where socialism has worked out well for the poor. Just one will do.

    "But under Jeremy it will be different." No it won't.
  19. Bobbbs

    Bobbbs Occasional commenter

    Where did you get your figures that the world's poorest are now worse off?

    Global poverty has dramatically decreased in the last 20 years.
  20. Bedlam3

    Bedlam3 Star commenter

    I think these birth strikers have a point. It's the people who breed too much who are the problem and have no care for the wider issue other and can only put themselves and their needs first. I think it's people who have more than two children who are seriously deranged and yes, I am well aware that many of you reading this will have more than two children. Going back to when contraception was not as easily available I can understand it but in modern Britain there is no excuse for more than two children.

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