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Best way to become a teacher without qualification?!

Discussion in 'Thinking of teaching' started by ppower1994, May 23, 2017.

  1. ppower1994

    ppower1994 New commenter

    Hi everyone,

    I finished college (performing arts) with 3 A* Distinctions. I did not attend university, so I do not have a degree and the thought of going to uni for 2/3 years to gain a degree is not an option, nor appealing.

    I have done some research online and have seen mixed results/information. For example, I saw that I can go down the 'School Direct Training QTS' but I then saw from another source that I need to be an undergraduate to do this.

    Can anyone clear up my options???

    I'm waiting to train, gain experience, obtain my teaching qualification and then move out to Australia to teach.

    Any insight would be splendid.

    Thank you in advance

    Perry
     
  2. blueskydreaming

    blueskydreaming Lead commenter

    In order to be a teacher in a primary or secondary school in the UK you must have a degree. The same goes for Australia.

    Your options are very simple:
    A) Do a degree, then apply for a place on a teacher training course.
    B) Don't do a degree, and don't be a teacher.
     
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  3. JL48

    JL48 Star commenter

    The Australians are even stricter than we are. I'm afraid not a chance without a degree. And most places outside the UK won't accept QTS obtained through the school direct route either.
     
  4. thequillguy

    thequillguy New commenter

    A degree-level qualification is needed. Intractable, I'm afraid. As has been said, you need a university-based route to obtain the visa. See this for yourself, as I've heard some porkie pies about this.
     
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  5. drvs

    drvs Star commenter

  6. danlee

    danlee New commenter

    Teaching is a degree level profession. You might be able to find employment as a TA or behaviour mentor though.
    Dan
     
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  7. sabram86

    sabram86 Occasional commenter

    A degree is really non-negotiable for being a teacher when TAs often have degrees and some even have PhDs....

    You can obtain QTLS without a degree, it is true, but I think that still requires a Level 5 qualification (i.e. equivalent to a DipHE, a foundation degree, or two years' study at undergraduate level).

    UCAS is your friend!
     
  8. Flere-Imsaho

    Flere-Imsaho Star commenter

    Have you checked if Australia are even looking for teachers to migrate there? Last time I looked, teaching wasn't in the top priority group and was quite subject specific. You would need a degree and a university based teaching qualification to even be considered for teaching jobs in Australia.
     
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  9. GirlGremlin

    GirlGremlin Occasional commenter

    You might find work in the private sector however... but you would have to be exceptional
     
  10. blueskydreaming

    blueskydreaming Lead commenter

    Well, I guess Leonardo Da Vinci didn't have a degree...

    The OP still won't make it to Australia though. They have a points based immigration system.
     
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  11. Alldone

    Alldone Senior commenter

    Ten year's ago the average house price in Sydney was A$200000. The average price now is over A$1000000. Be warned - cost of living in Aus is off the wall. I have family over there is Melbourne and Sydney. Their children are finding it very difficult getting on the housing ladder.
     
  12. MrMedia

    MrMedia Star commenter

    Might be best to head to Australia now as a UG and then convert to teaching. That or do a B.Ed.

    I will say this. Doing a degree is enjoyable. Fun. The best years of your life. Far more fun than working. Almost decadent. And good for you. Which is why we do Masters and PHDs afterwards. Being at a university is really quite liberating and different from other educational providers. It can lead to an epiphany. You might be surprised.
     
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  13. Kartoshka

    Kartoshka Established commenter

    Depends if you have an interest in what you're studying, I suppose. If you're studying just to get a degree, probably not so much.

    @ppower1994 Have you considered doing an Education degree? (Either a B.A. in Education, or a B.Ed. - Bachelor of Education.) If you choose one with QTS they have placements in schools, so it is teacher training at the same time as doing a degree.
     
  14. JL48

    JL48 Star commenter

    I found studying pedagogy extremely dull. My subject degree was far more interesting. (for me, anyway.) B.Ed or BA + QTS would be my idea of hell.
     
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  15. rolls

    rolls Occasional commenter

    You could look for work in a school whilst you are stufdying for a degree. A number of universities and colleges have programmes where you can attend for one day a week whilst taking a Foundation Degree and then a top up degree in education.
     

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