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BBC radio: 'Why has Feminism affected the Mother-son bond?'

Discussion in 'Personal' started by Vince_Ulam, Sep 29, 2018.

  1. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

    A short but interesting World Service programme featuring the reactions of committed feminists to their sons' innate nature:

    Why has Feminism affected the Mother-son bond?


    One mother's solution to her anger was to have her young teenage son dress up as a girl and dance at the Edinburgh Fringe:

    The programme includes comment from historian Babette Smith around the findings presented in her book, Mothers & Sons:


    Complex issues deserving dispassionate consideration.
    Last edited: Sep 29, 2018
  2. hs9981

    hs9981 Lead commenter

    This is better.
  3. Orkrider2

    Orkrider2 Star commenter

    Oooop, there it is! The outrage!
    slingshotsally likes this.
  4. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

    No, it is a factual report of content from the linked BBC World Service programme, supported by the embedded video.

    If you have something useful to say then it may be said without claiming that everything is motivated by 'outrage'.
    woollani likes this.
  5. Orkrider2

    Orkrider2 Star commenter

    And the irony is dialed up to 11. :)
    Flanks likes this.
  6. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

    I trust that other people can benefit from the ideas in the opening post's linked programme without being influenced by their personal prejudices.
    Last edited: Sep 29, 2018
    woollani likes this.
  7. Orkrider2

    Orkrider2 Star commenter

    You mean personal prejudices like interpreting a mother and son together creating a performance piece about their relationship as 'One mother's solution to her anger was to have her young teenage son dress up as a girl and dance at the Edinburgh Fringe:'? Or no
    Flanks likes this.
  8. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

    No. It is the rational narrative of the events reported. If you have another interpretation then offer it.
    woollani likes this.
  9. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

    That was abysmal!

    Expressive dance usually is.
    woollani likes this.
  10. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

    Thought not.
  11. Orkrider2

    Orkrider2 Star commenter

    Ooooh, oooh, last word lol

    I already offered it. Post 7.
  12. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

    Your mistake is assuming that this woman's anger was not part of her relationship with her son. I doubt that you have even listened to the radio programme in the opening post.
  13. Orkrider2

    Orkrider2 Star commenter

    You mean coz I don't hear what you hear I can't have listened? Ok sure.
  14. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

    No, because the alternative to your making a mistake is that you ignored what is there for everyone to hear.
    woollani likes this.
  15. Orkrider2

    Orkrider2 Star commenter

    Nope. I listened. I never got that she was trying to cope with her anger by having her son dress up as a girl.
    I heard, from both of them, that they decided to make something together after they'd had a fight about how he'd been playing up at school and the song was playing on the radio and it seemed like it was the only thing that they had in common anymore.
  16. colpee

    colpee Star commenter

    That’s the trouble with anger - it becomes selfish and blind too easily.
    Vince_Ulam and woollani like this.
  17. Orkrider2

    Orkrider2 Star commenter

    Have you listened to the programme?
  18. Timothy_Blue

    Timothy_Blue Lead commenter

    You alone I suspect.
    install and Vince_Ulam like this.
  19. Orkrider2

    Orkrider2 Star commenter

    Sure, the confirmation bias is always strong when someone mentions feminism.
    Nanook_rubs_it likes this.
  20. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

    Had you listened to the entire programme then you would know that it consists of women talking about feminism: Which way lays their 'confirmation bias'?

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