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"Asked" to move Year Groups Teaching responsibilities- suggested capability

Discussion in 'Workplace dilemmas' started by obie77, Mar 2, 2018.

  1. obie77

    obie77 New commenter


    My story is quite a long one but I will keep it brief! I would just love some advice from people as to how I can handle my current situation.

    The Primary school I teach at is currently under a self imposed monitoring and evaluation schedule, that is very similar to HMI. We are due OFTSED and are worried about results and becoming a costing school so there is a lot of " drop ins", book scrutiny sessions etc going on.

    I have had a recent bad experience with lessons observations, I was observed by SLT after being off ill for two days. My class were very unsettled, especially as different TAs came in to cover my class, no supply cover was brought it. The lesson was a disaster and I asked during feedback to be observed again. I was observed again by the same SLT member, however the Head then came in during the observation doing a "drop in".

    They both fed back to me saying I was in RI, though some of their points seemed very petty. I hadn't used the exact wording on the behaviour strategy, although the child understood my request and made changes to their behaviour and the behaviour in the class was good. I was then told I had to be observed again, if improvements weren't made I would be put on a support programme. Which I took to mean informal capability procedures. I was made to feel awful and cried openly in the meeting. I was also informed that I couldn't do the CPD I had requested as I didn't seem to understand what outstanding teaching was and observing and mentoring was part of the course. So how could I do those things if I didn't know myself? Although I am currently a NQT mentor.

    I was observed again, they stayed for 15 minutes max and when I eventually received feedback I was given good with elements of outstanding. Which is what I am usually assessed as, my marking, books and results reflect this too. I was also observed by our Maths subject lead that week too and he gave me a great feedback assessment.

    So all seemed to be getting better. Until I was invited to chat about next year's staffing roles. I have been "offered" part time in one of my chosen year groups with PPA cover. I will be job sharing with either the Head or the SLT member who observed me the first two times. It has been sold to me as a chance to develop my subject specialism across the school as a school development project and this will be good for leadership development as I can show I can teach across the year groups. But I already have experience of teaching nearly every year group across the primary age range and developing whole school projects. I have just finished one!

    I feel they think I can't cope and want to keep and eye on me, plus keep me out of the classroom full time. But where has this evidence come from? I know I had a rough patch but the other observations and monitoring do not back it up. Should they not have told me I was failing before now if that was the case? I am observed or monitored every week and this has been happening since September! Can I refuse to accept this move?

    Any advice would be very much appreciated as I am feeling very upset and stressed at the moment.
  2. clarefrankie

    clarefrankie Occasional commenter

    have you contacted your union? there is a maximum of 3 hrs of observations which are allowed in a year (unless a teacher is on a support plan)
  3. obie77

    obie77 New commenter

    I have been in touch with my union. But I thought “drop ins” didn’t count towards that total.
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  4. phlogiston

    phlogiston Star commenter

    They caught you at a low point and you didn't perform well. This has been followed by more positive observations that are a better reflection of you.
    I think the big issue for you is not having a class of your own.
    Maybe they've realised they need better arrangements for covering absence, maybe they want you delivering your subject.
    There might be less paperwork if you don't have your own class (although observations of a part time primary teacher I know well suggest that this probably isn't the case).
  5. Pomza

    Pomza Star commenter

    This is not so.

    They can observe you as many times as they like I'm afraid. (Not that I'm saying they should.)

    The three hours thing is a union recommendation that (like most other things the union/s say) is commonly completely ignored.
  6. Landofla

    Landofla Established commenter

    I think you have taken it negatively. Does someone currently share teaching responsibility with the Head and SLT member? If so, ask them about it. It sounds to me like they have tried to give you your chosen year group and get you to develop your subject specialism across the school, for the benefit of the children. No capability plan was mentioned. Take things for what they are, not what you worry them to be.
  7. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    Don't quibble about it.

    They have to have an overarching plan and they think they know your best fit given all the factors. Their business decisions are above your pay grade.

    Plus you're employed by the school to do as you're told! More or less. A job's a job's a job. They are putting you where they think you'll most good/least trouble. And they're not presenting it to you as a slap on the wrist. Just go with the flow.
  8. Jolly_Roger1

    Jolly_Roger1 Star commenter

    Will you be keeping the same hours, and salary?
  9. obie77

    obie77 New commenter

    Thank you everyone.

    Yes, I am very disappointed about loosing my whole class responsibility, I’ve job shared previously, it’s not an easier life.

    Same hours, same pay. But I am UPS2, a very expensive PPA option and my specialism is not a core subject.

    I would like to move into leadership, who will employ me? PPA cover no matter how you dress it up sounds like failing in the classroom to me.

    Or maybe I’ve just had my confidence knocked and I am struggling to see it another way? Something my Head refuses to acknowledge.
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  10. obie77

    obie77 New commenter

    I am not trouble, I had a rough patch, don’t we all? My school is quite stressful at the moment. But as a whole I am a very experienced and dedicated member of staff who gives a great deal to my job and position in school. Surely if I am trouble, it would be nice to be told. As then I would rectify the problem immediately.
  11. phlogiston

    phlogiston Star commenter

    Good PPA is expensive, and should be planned as rigorously as the core subjects; schools that mess it up get into trouble.
    Mrs P had a PPA part time job for a while. They replaced her with a TA, it fell to bits, then Ofsted came and the head was looking for a new job.
    The job is what it is. If you make it positive, take on a whole school role, get to know every child in the school and how the school works, then it may act as a springboard to other things.
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  12. install

    install Star commenter

    Do not accept this proposed deal or any change to your contract if this is the case. Do not have any further chats about it? Was the chat about going part time in the sane conversation about your grading? If it was - this is wrong...

    See your Union and see your gp. This must be causing some considerable stress.

    It sounds like they want a scapegoat - and you will be it if you start sharing classes/roles with the very people who are quick to find fault with you. It is support that you need here with the class and your teaching - not a replacement teacher.

    Keep getting others to observe you if it feels ok. Get witnesses around you if you can if this treatment continues.

    This sounds by all accounts like a 'fix'. When schs are in trouble sometimes slt like to blame anyone below them and show what they are doing to budge them. Its called survival.

    Stick in there - but get to your gp and Union.
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  13. carriecat10

    carriecat10 Established commenter Community helper

    In the end it is likely you will have to either accept this or look at moving schools. Regardless of their motives, the head and senior leaders have to manage staff to suit the school and they could argue that this is what they are doing.
    It sounds like you have a wealth of experience, so why not look for leadership opportunities elsewhere? Maybe this is just the motivation you need to make the move.
    Take it as an opportunity.
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  14. Landofla

    Landofla Established commenter

    What is your specialism btw? Buying in specialist PPA cover can be very costly and sometimes mean that their is a lesser quality of teaching going on. I’d rather have you by the sounds of it. I would say you accept it as it will mean you can undertake CPD with a leadership focus and have a few courses you’d like to attend ready and ask if you can be booked on. Haha! Make the most of every situation! It is also very good that the Head and SLT remain teaching. Think of it as a compliment that they want to share with you. They obviously think you are the most capable of giving them the easiest job share! I would think that if they shared with a NQT, their workload would be heavier!
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  15. Jolly_Roger1

    Jolly_Roger1 Star commenter

    @obie77 : If it is the same hours and pay but you are expensive, the school might be trying to push you sideways into a job that will later be cut.
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  16. Sundaytrekker

    Sundaytrekker Star commenter

    Not necessarily. It could also be interpreted that you will have more time for whole school responsibilities. Leadership posts generally have a reduction in class teaching so, although they will expect a very good teacher, other aspects come into play. This role could help you prepare.

    Your contract is likely to say class teacher and the role is still that so you can be deployed as the school sees fit.q
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  17. caterpillartobutterfly

    caterpillartobutterfly Star commenter

    I can understand you being peeved. I would hate what is being offered to you, for all the same reasons.
    It is true that the head can put you wherever s/he so chooses and you don't actually get a choice, but that doesn't mean you have to accept it without discussion.
    If you have had a whole heap of excellent observations before and since, then go back to them and say so. Say how upset you are to lose the classteacher role and explain how you can develop your subject across the school, without doing PPA cover.

    You also have plenty of time to find yourself a new post in an easier and more CPD aware school.
    If the new role isn't up for discussion, it's what I would do.
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  18. Millie33

    Millie33 New commenter

    See it as a positive. Could it be the SLT teacher just wants to teach with someone who is capable? If it’s really worrying you - why not just ask them? You never know you may be pleasantly surprised by their response.
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  19. gwhite1

    gwhite1 New commenter

    The best jobshare I ever had was with a deputy head. Everyone went to them as the 'main teacher' and we were left alone. I've not had any jobshare since that was as easy for me. If you're sharing a class, you're also sharing the responsibility and accountability. Someone from SLT is not a bad option in that case!
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  20. Pomza

    Pomza Star commenter

    Getting paid UP2 to cover PPA would be a dream come true for some!

    Look on the positive side - Other posters on this forum have a couple a rubbish observations, go straight on to capability and end-up being forced out, whilst sweating over their reference...

    TBH, I think a year doing PPA sounds quite attractive! Plus, it's not forever, one resignation and you've got your own class again...:)
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