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"Army" of retired teachers to help children catch up.

Discussion in 'Education news' started by phlogiston, Apr 26, 2020.

  1. phlogiston

    phlogiston Star commenter

    Robert Halfon, Higher Education Minister has come up with a nifty wheeze.
    Mary Bousted said
    When asked if it would be a good idea to have retired teachers working in schools given older people are more at risk of dying if they contract coronavirus, Mr Halfon cited the example of the retired doctors and nurses who had successfully returned to support the NHS.

    As we know, some of these retired medics died prematurely.

    Maybe if they'd treated teachers better, some of them would still be working in mainstream schools.
    I note there's no pay.
    I note that few recent graduates (the other group he's thinking to ask) have the independent means to work for free.
    As for me, I will be continuing to work with the disadvantaged children I already work with.
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  2. drvs

    drvs Star commenter

    Oh dear. Some of them are really buying into this faux "war effort" rhetoric aren't they?
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  3. Yoda-

    Yoda- Lead commenter

    Well Robert what's holding you back. Lead by example. Don't forget the head scarf and belt with a thousand stitches. Our Emperor Boris will be impressed.
  4. sandolina

    sandolina New commenter

    why how does federal money divide so not call volunteers? and when the crisis then hear loud statements?
  5. catbefriender

    catbefriender Lead commenter

    Don't get me started!:mad:

    We already have over 300,000 qualified teacher of working age currently not working in UK schools and of them 100,000 NQTs that have yet to complete induction. Even when we take into consideration some of them, may never want to return to the chalk face, there are still tens of thousands who have registered an interest in returning to teach.

    I hope whatever scheme this MP has involves PAYING these teachers with money, not via thanks or praise.
  6. Grandsire

    Grandsire Star commenter

    Is this the 'army' of retired teachers who (despite having taught for decades and being respected and highly-skilled teachers) were put on capability, and whose careers ended ignominiously by simply disappearing on sick leave while a Bright Young Thing at half the cost moved into their classroom to teach the way the SLT demanded?

    'Cos if it's them, I don't think they're coming back. Listen - if you hold this board rubber to your ear, you can hear them laughing...
  7. moscowbore

    moscowbore Star commenter

    I would add that those retired medics were all wearing ppe and still died.

    Anyway, when will the army get the chance to spend time with the students? After lockdown schools will be running with half timetables with half of the students to enable social distancing? Where would this teaching take place? Online?

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  8. Corvuscorax

    Corvuscorax Star commenter


    I would like to see Grove grovelling on his knees to beg the teachers he destroyed to come back.

    But it wont have much affect on those whose physical and mental health he totally destroyed, or those he drove to heart attacks or suicides
    Piscean1, tenpast7, Jamvic and 7 others like this.
  9. blazer

    blazer Star commenter

    So why would you want a supply teacher when you can have one of Dad's Army to cover?
    tenpast7, Lidnod, MarieAnn18 and 3 others like this.
  10. Symingtons

    Symingtons New commenter

    And who would pay for all the child protection clearances needed?
  11. DrJay

    DrJay Occasional commenter

    Given that some of these were older, experienced and therefore expensive teachers who were booted out--particularly in those MATs--by those SLTs in shiny 3-piece suits and then replaced with younger, inexperienced and cheap NQTs, would it be morally wrong for these older guys to utterly ignore this call for help?
  12. a1976

    a1976 Established commenter

    Dr Jay, you just took the words right out of my mouth! I was thinking the exact same thing! Why should they, only to probably be booted away again? I'm nowhere near retirement but hell will have to freeze over before I get back into teacher full stop now that supposedly there is a recruitment crisis. Chances are, those who want to help out will just be taking the dross while the goody goody members of staff work with the ones who can just get on with it.
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  13. a1976

    a1976 Established commenter

    I don't think it was just Gove though. He just carried on from Kelly and other Labour idiots. The bottom line is that education is stuffed full of the ignoramuses from all walks of life. Since 2003, its become full of people who couldn't hack it in life.
  14. Symingtons

    Symingtons New commenter

    The obvious answer is for the retried to come back and do the admin/leadership jobs safely in an office, whilst the younger SLT members who are less likely to die from Coronavirus go back to the chalkface and teach 40 periods or so a week.
  15. phlogiston

    phlogiston Star commenter

    You hit unlucky then. 2/3 of the ones I had mostly tried to do what I asked (give or take), most of the rest were worthwhile even if wriggly, distracted and even occasionally idle.
    Very few were actively hostile, and most of them have turned into civilised adults. Usually, what I was told to offer wasn't what they needed.
    A significant fraction of the few who ended up in court were nice kids when they were at school. You can never tell!
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  16. phlogiston

    phlogiston Star commenter

    Still not planning to go back though!
    Too busy in my nicer workplace.
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  17. snowyhead

    snowyhead Lead commenter

    The answer will be: "Bu@@er off!"
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  18. ridleyrumpus

    ridleyrumpus Star commenter

    Run that one past me again.
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  19. DrJay

    DrJay Occasional commenter

    I bet they won't survive the second week if they survived the first. I'm told a headteacher (who got lucky, circumstantially, to be in that position today), never previously taught ALevel. She currently teaches an ALevel unit, and her students reckon she's the poorest amongst those delivering the subject. How many years of classroom experience do people gain these days before becoming heads?
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  20. a1976

    a1976 Established commenter

    This headteacher's name wouldn't be Tracey would it?

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