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Arghh I'm losing my compassion...

Discussion in 'Personal' started by needabreak, Nov 7, 2019.

  1. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

    Fed up hearing about how much help people need, tonight it's addicts who need to stop them killing themselves as their drug addiction develops and takes over or indeed takes their lives.

    There are always times when people feel despair but to excuse drug use with that reason is annoying for people who simply make different and often difficult life choices so as not to be drawn into that lifestyle. Even folk with a comfy life, education and good jobs get drawn in... If they lose it all due to their addiction that's sad but seriously what can be done bar tolerate it, especially where their family and society has done all they/it can?
  2. Mangleworzle

    Mangleworzle Star commenter

    I've never had much compassion for drug addicts, prescription drugs aside. Making the effort to find a dealer and buy something you know is illegal is a very definite decision.
  3. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

    I used to think it could be a momentary lapse that ended in addiction etc and so forth, though I feel my views are changing and I'm generally less tolerant of poor behaviour generally, while simultaneously feeling that when we tot up all the people allegedly "needing" help we will run out of people able to help.
  4. Corvuscorax

    Corvuscorax Star commenter

    There is always terrible suffering and misery happening somewhere to innocent people. Everybody's life would be wasted totally if you suffered along in sympathy constantly every day of your life. You can care in principle, but don't try and feel compassion all the time. It is not what the human brain was designed for.

    MAGAorMIGA Star commenter

    I feel compassion for those whose lives are so awful, so stressful, so meaningless, and have so little regard for the worthwhile nature of their lives that they resort to these substances. Such people are ill, and need medical and psychological/psychiatric intervention, rather than punishment. I can't help but feel that things were much better when doctors could prescribe drugs such as heroin to addicts.
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  6. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

    Seriously, I didn't know they did that, how did that work?

    MAGAorMIGA Star commenter

    Before 1967 they could - my Dad was pharmacy manager of Boots the Chemist in Manchester, and at the end of shop hours on Fridays a queue of addicts clutching their legal prescriptions would form, to receive their heroin doses, of the required purity and strength to keep them safe. Then it was banned, and the queues vanished. I don't think the addictions did, though.
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  8. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

    Crumbs. We'd be legally supplying every addict? Just heroin or coke etc? It would be a good replacement for religion... A true opiate of the masses.
  9. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Back then there were about 500 heroin addicts... not the circa. 200000 there are these days.

    Indeed, banning the substances drove the addicts to turn to criminals to supply them... who in turn needed to grow their market to ensure their efforts were cost effective.

    IMO the 'war' on drugs created the drugs problem we have today. Solving that problem is one of the challenges of the 21st century.
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  10. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Oh yes... Coca Cola. Started with Cocaine, then that was removed as the dangers came to light... but the sales dropped so they added heaps of sugar...

    And we now have an obesity crisis ...
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  11. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

    My post was tongue in cheek but I get that may not have been obvious.

    I agree, we discourage smoking, want people to eat healthily and exercise (generally look after themselves) so I'm guessing providing their addictive recreational drugs isn't really a goer.
  12. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    And yet if we don't then we drive them deeper into the open arms of drug pushers.

    Cannabis is a gateway drug for example... not because a puff on cannabis leads to drug addiction and cocaine, but because the people who sell cannabis also sell harder stuff...

    Hence why [IMO] legalisation as practised in some parts of the world [Colorado, Portugal] might be the way forward.
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  13. colacao17

    colacao17 New commenter

    Sometimes it's the dealers who go looking. And I imagine they can make it very tempting, very easy, very cheap. Until you're dependent.
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  14. colacao17

    colacao17 New commenter

    Don't we still do that? But now it's methadone or some other substitute that's supplied
  15. ilovesooty

    ilovesooty Star commenter

    Having worked extensively in drug services I honestly think the general public is so poorly informed about substances and treatment it's pretty unlikely to be a focus of compassion.
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  16. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    You are absolutely correct.

    It needs to be treated as a public health issue, along the lines of how Portugal do things, as mentioned by @lanokia just above.
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  17. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

    We could sedate the whole country and we'd not be so moany and miserable, sounds like a win.
    Last edited: Nov 8, 2019
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  18. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Mission Statement for the BBC. :p
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  19. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

    Ha you don't like public service broadcasting then? What next the NHS... Schools? :D:D:D
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  20. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    I don't see them as equatable... the BBC is entertainment.

    The NHS and Schools have clear social functions and benefits. Other countries manage fine without demanding everyone shell out an annual charge for an entertainment service.

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