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Discussion in 'Education news' started by TES_Rosaline, Apr 11, 2019.
Well this is unpleasant.
It’s not about being accepting. It’s not about compassion. These things already exist. It is about
Being expected to go along with the lie that ‘trans women are women’. They are not. Trans women are trans women and no less or more deserving of respect, understanding and compassion than anyone else. To equate this with racism is ridiculous and insulting.
I had the same thought when I read your post which likened this thread to the pro-racism movement.
So says the great expert in the field.
In a slight misspelled word, rollocks.
Are you sure that the "no outsiders" program of study actually teaching that trans women are women?
Where have you seen this?
I don't really see a difference, just a minority which needs a bit of compassion and understanding - give it time and people will look back on this era with the same view as they have of when it was legal/socially acceptable to exclude/discriminate against women, gays, ethnic minorities, etc.
And the people confusing sex and gender will be regarded as dinosaurs who struggled to accept compassion as a human value.
Aaaah. The ‘right side of history’ argument. Where have people not shown compassion and understanding? How does being part of a lie show compassion and understanding? How does encouraging autistic children to transition show compassion and understanding?
FWIW I think future generations will look back at the TWAW argument and think it absolute nonsense.
There's nothing wrong with the argument - history has shown time and again that people need time to change and accept others for who they are. Societies take time to grow sadly.
Sometimes I do wonder if some people are actually self aware.
Have you actually read the thread?
I did think that.... It does get really quite nasty in places. Seems like a timewarp to the 1880s...
Yes. Have you?
Yes I have and in it there are many posts that I would catagorise as lacking "compassion and understanding."
You need only look at Mermaid's own advice to parents:
'Gender dysphoria is a mismatch between the gender assigned to a person at birth and the gender that they actually identify with. Sometimes in younger children, this may surface with boys playing with dolls and other traditionally female toys, or girls who refuse to wear dresses or hate having long hair'
Let boys and girls play with whatever toys they want to play with and prefer whatever appearance they wish without pushing onto them the adult construction of transgender, harming them emotionally & cognitively and sending them down irreversible pathways of physical intervention.
If you could discuss this calmly and rationally then you would not need to refer to ad hominem arguments but for now you have simply adopted a position and decided to stop thinking about it.
You can only be worried that other people do not agree with you. Try paying actual attention to what others have to say and you will see that you can entertain their views without feeling anxious about them.
Again some self awareness is needed here.
Accusing myself of "ad hominem arguments" by making an ad hominem argument takes the biscuit.
You pulled this discussion into the realm of the personal, not me.
Take the advice. It's good.
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I have absolutely no agenda what so ever. I am describing reality to you, and real life as I have experienced it.
You are a very sore loser, who simply descends into personal abuse when you cannot answer someones argument.
I will say it again. If you have a contribution to make to the discussion, than make it.
As yet.... nothing