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Are there any teachers thinking of moving into a Pastoral role?

Discussion in 'Jobseekers' started by daisy18, Jul 9, 2011.

  1. daisy18

    daisy18 New commenter

    Having completed my NQT year I am now struggling to secure employment for Sept. (my first role was a 12 month contract).
    I love teaching but I am also very interested in the pastoral side and the barriers to learning that students may face. As I cannot get a teaching role I am thinking a pastoral role will keep me in education and would be excellent experience, I may even enjoy it more than teaching.
    I have seen a few roles for 'Pastoral Manager' and 'Head of House' and I am thinking of applying for these.
    I wanted advice from anyone who might have made the move from teaching to a pastoral role.
    1. What will the Head look for, is just 1 years teaching experience enough (I have worked in industry prior to teaching so I am not really young!). Also will a prospective Head be worried that I am only applying as I cannot get a teaching role? (Yes I would love a teaching role but I am interested in a pastoral role and I do understand it is not an easy job, I will be dealing with a lot of behaviour issues).
    2. What will the job entail - are there any teachers out there who have changed and gone into the pastoral side, am I right in thinking its a similar job to a HOY?

    Thanks for any advice
  2. I personally know of at least 2 colleagues who started doing pastoral and then became main scale teachers!
  3. minnieminx

    minnieminx New commenter

    In my experience, which is very recent in secondary schools, these posts tend to be promoted posts for those on their way up the career ladder. The people who do them often teach as well and have a fair amount of experience.

    I would also say that the roles you mention are a step up from HOY. So career wise, if you wanted to go down the pastoral route you would be a great classteacher first, then HOY, then maybe KS leader, then pastoral manager/head of house. They are quite senior roles.

    It wouldn't so much that you couldn't do the job, but whether you would have any credibility with those in your team.
  4. minnieminx

    minnieminx New commenter

    RATS!! Too slow for the edit function!
    Should read ISN'T, not is!
  5. I have been looking into this as more and more schools are advertising non teaching pastoral roles that are about equal to the pay for an NQT or RQT!
    My theory is go for it, whats the worst that could happen? you dont get shortlisted?
    Good Luck!
  6. daisy18

    daisy18 New commenter

    Thank you for your reply.
    I think it may differ hugely in different schools. The role I am looking at applying for pays considerably less than a teacher on MPS 2. (what I would be on from sept if I could secure a teaching post).
    So i understand I will lack experience but then I cant see there will be many experienced teachers that can afford to take such a considerable reduction in salary?
    Perhaps the title of these roles is quite misleading a 'Pastoral Manager' sounds quite high up but isnt really when its paying 5k less that a teacher in their 2nd year.
    Any other posters who have moved from teaching into a pastoral role out there?

  7. daisy18

    daisy18 New commenter

    Thanks ! I think you are right, with so few teaching roles out there it keeps me in education and I think would be great experience and you never know some opportunities to teach may come from it!

  8. minnieminx

    minnieminx New commenter

    Are these more of a learning mentor type role? Given the salary it would seem so. The role might put you more on a par with HLTAs and higher level CSs. Sort of managing them maybe?

    I would look at the job description to see what it actually involves. Then look at the person spec. If you meet all the criteria then go for it.

    Or go and visit and chat to the HT/whoever shows you round.
  9. Hi Hun
    I am an NQT who hasnt managed to arrange a teaching job for Sept. Literally hardly any have come up.
    I too am now looking into pastoral jobs. I have applied for a Learning Mentor job and Head of year/Head of house job. They are just pastoral and u are not expected to teach. They pay the same as a teacher.
    I have applied for fixed term ones. Im assuming the head will probably guess I would rather teach, and will want to teach in the future. So I think they are more likely to consider me for a temp contract. One of my friends had an interview for one recently and of the 8 candidates interviews virtually all were NQTs
    I think most people in teaching appreicate this year is especially tough for getting jobs. Certainly everyone I have spoken to agrees. I did a training day last week and out of 30 NQTs (all subjects) 3 had jobs
    Good luck with it all

  10. I've been unable to get a job since finishing my PGCE and have been applying for pastoral roles as well, learning mentors/achievement tutor posts. I've applied for as many as possible in the area I want to stay in (I'm tied to the area) and hopefully I'll at least get an interview. I've made sure to mention why I wanted to move into pastoral roles rather than classroom teaching in my application statements as well!

    To be honest if I'm lucky enough to get an interview/job in this area I might stick with it. Jobs and supply is dire in my subject and doesn't look like it'll get much better..
  11. Whats your subject?
    Some TA positions are specialised so maybe u could get one in your subject.
    Reed supply advertise and if u are willing to cover any subject they should be able to hopefully help, and I think u get paid more.
    I think lots of people are in this situation


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