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Are there a shortage of Science Co-ordinators in the Primary School?

Discussion in 'Primary' started by WilkoT, Dec 28, 2011.

  1. Okay, well, In a few months Im going to graduate as a Primary School teacher, so will be applying for jobs very soon. I have enhanced my studying with Science, so when I graduate, I will also be qualified to become the Science Co-ordinator in the school.

    I've been in rather a few Schools while studying, and not many have a specific Science Co-ordinator, so I'm wondering whether its worth mentioning the fact that I am adequately qualified to 'lead' this subject when applying for jobs. Do you think this will stand me in good stead? What do you think?

    As always, any general advice is greatly appreciated.
    Wilko
     
  2. greta444

    greta444 New commenter

    Any teacher worth their salt should be 'adequately qualified' to lead any subject. IMO you should have an interest in the subject you're co-ordinating, a better job gets done then. I wouldn't bother mentioning co-ordinating a subject in application or interview, just say you've specialised in science. Co-ordinator roles come up when someone leaves or the head decides to have a re-shuffle. You need a good 3 years + before thinking about co-ordinating an important subject like this anyway.
    Good luck
     
  3. Msz

    Msz Established commenter

    It's always worth putting in your covering letter that you have a science qualification but if I'm honest you rarely end up coordinating what you studied when you first start out ... I got ICT for my first coordinators role (humanities background) because I knew how to switch on the computers [​IMG]

     
  4. harsh-but-fair

    harsh-but-fair Lead commenter

    Errr, no - NQTs shouldn't be subject co-ordinators.

    I shouldn't put in for co-ordinator of English ....




     
  5. CarrieV

    CarrieV Lead commenter

    I'm an atheist Lead maths teacher with a Geography degree, so obviously I'm RE, Literacy and History co-ordinator! Basically, after your NQT year you will get what you're given-if there's anything around! In small schools such as mine, everyone co-ordinates several subjects, in some schools only SMT co-ordinate. But I'm puzzled as to how you can be a "qualified science co-ordinator" when you've never even taught a science lesson!
     
  6. minnieminx

    minnieminx New commenter

    Errr I imagine all will have done. A few schools sometimes have a curriculum co-ordinator who co-ordinates everything, but the vast majority of schools will have a science co-ord. You might just have missed noticing it. The only thing I do really is sort out entry for a few competitions, organise science week, liaise with one of the high school co-ords and sort out the ordering and organisation of resources. A student teacher probably wouldn't notice anything at all in the autumn term.
    Nopes! You are NOT qualified to 'lead' anything at all. You don't need a qualification to lead a subject in primary school. You are as qualified to lead RE or Literacy as you are science. So you know a fair amount of science? Doesn't mean you can teach or that you can lead.

    Also you will be applying for NQT posts and so won't be leading a subject anyway. Your application (which is likely to be one of well over a hundred) needs to tell a school that you are the very best NQT to join their school. Not that you haven't a clue about how leadership works or that you know nothing about being an NQT and the requirements.
     
  7. Anonymous

    Anonymous New commenter

    Every subject has a co-ordinator. In a small school, you may do 2 or 3. Having subject knowledge whilst an advantage is not necessary. A NQT does not normally lead a subject - but I'm sure you've figured that out now [​IMG]
     
  8. southernteacher

    southernteacher New commenter

    Best things to have on your job application are interest in PE or Music. Nobody wants to do those Sat morning matches and any one who can take a lead in Christmas production and hymn practice - yipee.
     
  9. Thankyou for the replies. Some more helpful than others.
    As I said, Im here to learn, and it seems that I have been mis-informed by my tutors. I have taught more Science lessons than any other subject, as this is my enhancement subject. I have been told that there are a shortage of people enhancing their knowledge with Science., so was wondering whether mentioning this would stand me in good stead, and would be worth mentioning with any application, as I mentioned earlier. For instance, there are (approx.) 300 students on my course, out of these 300, 15 are enhancing their Science subject knowledge... as you can see, not a very high proportion of the students.

    Thanks for the replies anyway.

    Wilko
     
  10. paulie86

    paulie86 New commenter

    I am middle years science trainee (currently in a closing middle school) I am going to be SENCO at my new primary school. A friend who is middle SENCO is going to be Science Co-ordinator in her primary. It's al just down to needs of school. Your application has to give what the school wants. Read adverts carefully, visit andasklots of questions. Obviously my new school wanted me, but not for my main subject or other co-ordinators role!
    I was also head of drama and head of ks2 science at my middle school.
     
  11. Msz

    Msz Established commenter

    how odd! schools will be more interested in seeing someone who has a well balanced subject knowledge/experience so you are limiting your chances and I would suggest you don't tell schools. Have your tutors told you that is how primary schools work?
     
  12. CarrieV

    CarrieV Lead commenter

    There's a difference between mentioning that you have specialised in science during your training and saying you are a qualified science co-ordinator. I think what people are trying to get across is that the role of a science co-ordinator is usually one covered by an experienced teacher. How, as an NQT, would you feel able to comment on the quality of science teaching across the school, observing and grading science lessons taught by those with MUCH more experience than yourself?
    By all means say that you have a particular interest in science and that this is an area you have enhanced subject knowledge in ( do you also have a science degree?) but i certainly wouldn't go any further than that!
     
  13. minnieminx

    minnieminx New commenter

    There isn't a shortage of primary school teachers in any area at all.

    If you apply for a post as a science teacher in a prep or middle school, then yes mention your enhancement subject and it will help. But if you want a normal NQT post in a normal state primary then mention science in the qualifications part, but don't waste valuable space in the application letter unless a school specifically asks for science knowledge.
    I would hope the vast majority are enhancing their maths or English knowledge, both of which will be much more useful in an application. Primary schools want excellent maths and English teachers, they are far less fussed about science or other foundation subjects. To be utterly frank the average graduate will know enough science to teach it well at primary level.
     
  14. I understand exactly what you mean, thanks for your constructive reply.

    Best of luck as a SENCO.

    Wilko
     
  15. paulie86

    paulie86 New commenter

    Thanks good luck with your applications.
     
  16. oldsomeman

    oldsomeman Star commenter

    As an ex science co-ordinator you actually dont need a huge knowledge of science. You need to be able to manage ,inspire and direct others into covering the subject correctly.,and sort out any misconceptions being taught.
    In my day i phyisically built the science store asnd stocked it, sorted out science day.chased stock and materials horded in class rooms and oversaw the planning and delivery via book monitoring..........And i studied to have higher qualifications in the area such as a diploma.
    The advice given is sound........be a good all rounder with an interest in science and firstly get a job.get through your NQT year and then see what is on offer.
     

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