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Are risk assessments for school trips a pain?

Discussion in 'Secondary' started by AlexKeaneOnTour, Jan 25, 2011.

  1. Dear TES Connect Members,

    I work for a company which specialises in offering a full service travel program to schools and sporting clubs.
    As a part of our service we offer an in-depth risk assessment for all trips, so teachers don't need to worry about the Health and Safety aspects of the paperwork, it's all done for you by our expert team.
    The Risk Assessment document is something which has been produced internally to help teachers. We worked with LEAs and several schools to ensure it goes above and beyond what each school requires.
    My question is this: Would such a service be of use?
    I am new to this market, I come from a corporate travel background. So I wanted to hear from teachers who take trips away, to ask whether the risk assessment is of use? Is the risk side of things something teachers are concerned with? Is it a hassle?
    Also, any feedback on what annoys you most about the travel companies you've used in the past? and, what we can offer to help teachers? The more we know, the more we can provide.
    Any feedback you could offer would be much appreciated.
    Many thanks
    Alex
     
  2. Dear TES Connect Members,

    I work for a company which specialises in offering a full service travel program to schools and sporting clubs.
    As a part of our service we offer an in-depth risk assessment for all trips, so teachers don't need to worry about the Health and Safety aspects of the paperwork, it's all done for you by our expert team.
    The Risk Assessment document is something which has been produced internally to help teachers. We worked with LEAs and several schools to ensure it goes above and beyond what each school requires.
    My question is this: Would such a service be of use?
    I am new to this market, I come from a corporate travel background. So I wanted to hear from teachers who take trips away, to ask whether the risk assessment is of use? Is the risk side of things something teachers are concerned with? Is it a hassle?
    Also, any feedback on what annoys you most about the travel companies you've used in the past? and, what we can offer to help teachers? The more we know, the more we can provide.
    Any feedback you could offer would be much appreciated.
    Many thanks
    Alex
     
  3. blazer

    blazer Star commenter

    Risk assessment can be fiddly but they are hardly a pain.

    We have a pro forma that we use for the majority of trips. This was produced by the former EVC several years back and is still good enough.

    For more complicated trips or for where there may be students with specific needs our LEA provides a more involved pro forma with guidance.

    Many places you visit will have their own risk asessments that can be downloaded or they will post to you. You can then use these together with any ammendments you think fit.

    The school EVC should have the expertise to advise and assist anyone on the staff to produce a proper risk assessment (that is what they are paid for)!
     
  4. Middlemarch

    Middlemarch Star commenter

    Using off-the-peg risk assessments is the best way to ensure you don't actually consider the risks for your own trip, surely? The whole point is that you think about the group you're taking (some children will have different needs and therefore be subject to different risks), the exact activities you're planning and so on.
    I can see the court case now:
    (Prosecuting counsel): 'So Mr Tripleader, when you wrote this risk assessment you had thought about the fact that Jason Mason is dyspraxic and therefore more likely to trip on an uneven path, had you? So why didn't you mention it?
    (Mr Tripleader): 'Well, when I bought the risk assessment from an online supplier...'
     
  5. phlogiston

    phlogiston Lead commenter

    Yes, risk assessments are a bit of a pain. but proper management of a trip demands that you think about what your students are going to do, what might go wrong and how you might control it.
    Yes if you are paying someone to run an activity (yachting, say) then it is very useful I would expect them to do the specialist yachting bits (especially the bits to do with maintenance). I would still expect to look at it though and check that it covers all reasonable eventualiities.
    Best wishes,
    P
     
  6. mpc

    mpc

    No disrespect to the OP intended but Halima, have you spoken to LA about this? They may be able to help.
     
  7. blazer

    blazer Star commenter


    halima, your school should have (it is a legal requirment) an Educational Visits co-ordinator. That person will have been trained to carry out risk assessments and also is paid to cascade this down to colleagues. Find out who this person is and ask them for help/training. Risk asessments are not a pain. They can take a little time sometimes but carrying one out helps with the smooth running of the trip and having to spend too much time thinking on your feet.

    A bought in risk assessment will still need to be read and ammended to suit your school's and pupils' particular needs. Your LEA outdoor ed dept will also have some advice and risk assessment pro formas and exemplar risk assessments. Birmingham (my LA) have them all on a website. I have copied the useful ones and shared them with all the staff in my school.
     

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