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Are Ofsted still behind schedule or back on track?

Discussion in 'Ofsted inspections' started by NQT1986, Aug 28, 2016.

  1. NQT1986

    NQT1986 Occasional commenter

    We were 'Good' in Spring 2013 and have been expecting a visit since Christmas but no sign of them yet!

    All the local schools that have been done are those in RI or SM or those who got an outstanding years ago /then one of those Golden tickets and rumour had it that Ofsted were v behind schedule so weren't even onto the Good schools yet.

    Is this true, does anyone know? If so-have they caught up?!
  2. SteveKindle

    SteveKindle Occasional commenter

    Last I heard on this was around 6 months ago.

    At a conference an Ofsted subject specialist told staff in their subject area not to expect a subject inspection (in any subject), as OFSTED were so short of inspectors that they couldn't keep up with the standard Section 5 inspections.

    No idea if there's been any change.

    I would imagine their priorities will be:

    1 - Inadequate and in Special Measures
    2 - Vanilla Inadequate
    3 - Requires improvement
    4 - Good schools whose results have dropped significantly
    5 - Outstanding schools whose results have dropped significantly
    5 - Good schools whose results look like they might go up to Outstanding
    6 - Vanilla Good schools
    7 - Vanilla Outstanding schools

    I'm with you - I'd like to know if anyone has heard anything more. There must be some 'anonymous' HMIs on here.
  3. gigaswitch1

    gigaswitch1 Occasional commenter

    We are No. 7 Steve. 10 years this term, I very much doubt we will ever see them. The new chief OFSTED inspector will start, they will change the rules and we will be judged under a new criteria. Probably super good with 2 stars.
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  4. SteveKindle

    SteveKindle Occasional commenter

    There's talk of them dropping 'Outstanding'.

    Where will that leave us?

    Schools will be pass/fail. Fail will result in something like an old inspection. Pass will result in you not being inspected again unless the results take a dive - and I mean a dive rather than a dip.

    We could end up with OFSTED only 'inspecting' schools where something is clearly wrong, but just sending an HMI into other schools every 5 or 10 years for the day, just for a quick once-over.

    Isn't that what it should have been all along?

    But I think this is too late to solve the problem - OFSTED's stress-inducing properties have just been shifted to the trusts.

    We used to see SLTs leaving their staff alone to get on with the job, unless something was clearly going wrong. Then OFSTED insisted that SLTs knew what was going on in their schools (fair point), which translated to termly observations based on Ofsted inspection criteria (complete overkill). These are now being used by trusts, insisting all academies use them.

    OFSTE goes, and the trusts take their place. Only now every teacher gets an OFSTED-type observation and scrutiny of books every term.

    And they wonder why there's a staffing crisis.
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  5. CandysDog

    CandysDog Established commenter

    We are a 'Good' school and haven't been inspected for five years. There are several other schools in similar circumstances in the same LA.
  6. NQT1986

    NQT1986 Occasional commenter

    Have you been done yet, Candysdog?!
  7. CandysDog

    CandysDog Established commenter

    No, @NQT1986. Getting a fair bit past five years now.

    There are other 'Good' schools in our LA that have been done twice since us (though more 'Good' schools that are now also around or approaching five years). My LA as a whole is a bit above national averages, but it's no panacea.

    My school's results are above average or average on all league table measurements, so I don't think we're that high up on Ofsted's priority list.
  8. First Snowdrop

    First Snowdrop New commenter

    We were 'Good' 5 years ago & had a one day inspection a couple of weeks ago - just beyond the 5th anniversary. At last!
    PeterQuint likes this.
  9. Marshall

    Marshall Star commenter

    What is a Vanilla Good school? I've never heard of the term!
    cathr likes this.
  10. CandysDog

    CandysDog Established commenter

    'Vanilla' is just an idiom to mean 'regular'.
  11. CandysDog

    CandysDog Established commenter

    I recently discovered that Ofsted measure in terms of academic years after the inspection. In other words, if a school received 'Good' in the 2011–2012 academic year (as mine did) then Ofsted has all the way until the end of this academic year, even though more than five calendar years has passed.

    I also learnt that Ofsted hasn't let any 'Good' school go past five years and intend to keep it this way. So, we're definitely getting inspected by July.

    Long term, the aim is for three years between inspections, but that's a long way off.
  12. fundisi

    fundisi New commenter

    Sorry to wake this thread up!

    Outstanding in 2008 - still waiting for Ofsted...sounds like I'd better start dotting the i's and crossing the t's.
    PeterQuint likes this.
  13. mrcooldude

    mrcooldude Occasional commenter

    Have you been Ofsteded yet?
  14. CandysDog

    CandysDog Established commenter

    Yes. Done about a month ago.
  15. mrcooldude

    mrcooldude Occasional commenter

    How did it go?
    Startedin82 likes this.
  16. CandysDog

    CandysDog Established commenter

    They got what they wanted.
  17. gigaswitch1

    gigaswitch1 Occasional commenter

    10 years and we are still waiting, I wish they would come. Every 3 mths, SLT get the jitters and we get harassed by them.
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  18. PeterQuint

    PeterQuint Lead commenter

    It's the most ridiculous thing.

    The whole idea was, if you're an Outstanding school we're not coming, you don't have to waste valuable time, stress and energy preparing.

    Instead it just drags it out.
  19. Startedin82

    Startedin82 Established commenter

    As a "good" school we went 4 years and 8 months. Were "done" in June - one inspector, one day - all good, very positive, a dialogue and quite light touch. Nothing to fear provided your school is performing as well or almost as well as it should do in all circumstances.
  20. CandysDog

    CandysDog Established commenter

    Polar opposite of my experience...

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