I meant to add blackdog - Since November, 2300 more views -- People are having a little look and if only a small percentage get something positive out of i, then its worthwhile. As i have said before, my intention re posting on these forums is to help raise awarenes as many people who are bullied do not have a clue what is going on until it is too late to save themselves or others from serious damage. Further, often good people in positions of power believe that their peers operate in a similar way to themselves - Why should they think otherwise ? They should think otherwise! In establishments where people are aware of how bullying actually works, stress levels are reduced and those that would otherwise use bullying to control are much less likely to behave in antisocial ways as bullies fear exposure. There will always be bullies in society, they will flourish in establishments where good people expect their seniors to follow social norms re behaviour. This expectation enable sociopathic types to behave badly and to manipulate others into behaving badly. Sometimes its because of percieved (and probably not real) threats but it might equally be just for kicks because they can. I don't mean to encourage paranoia -- on the contrary, my intention is to promote understanding which will help people at all levels recognise and deal with these rather dangerous clowns.