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Appraisal Targets

Discussion in 'Workplace dilemmas' started by delmamerchant, Oct 8, 2017.

  1. delmamerchant

    delmamerchant Established commenter

    Kept hesitating about signing off on my targets for some reason.

    Then it hit me. They want me to track a particular group of students but we have a member of staff in the team who is responsible for this key stage, so now I am thinking why should I have to track these students in that particular key stage. I do not teach them.

    Secondly, I only work 3 days a week. Do I still have to have 3 targets?
  2. JohnJCazorla

    JohnJCazorla Star commenter

    I agree about not signing off if you're sure you don't want to. Seems a waste of a target if tracking means cobbling together a few statistics for a specific cohort! Are you the line manager for this member of staff?

    Almost certainly you have to do 3 targets unless the school PM policy says otherwise.
  3. slstrong123

    slstrong123 New commenter

    My school is 3 targets for full timers and 2 for part timers.
  4. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter

    I can't think why the OP should have any responsibility for pupils they don't teach (unless, perhaps, they line-manage the person who does that anyway). I wonder how it would work if the OP decided some intervention was crucial and the other teacher(s) involved with that group of pupils disagree.

    Or is this just about statistically monitoring the group's progress? If so, what's the point?
  5. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    There should be no more than 3 objectives. Which is fine. Three. Fine.

    Because of the following. (Thanks, NASUWT).

    Objectives must not add to your workload.

    They should not require the collection of portfolios of evidence. They should not require working at weekends, evenings or during the holidays.
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  6. caterpillartobutterfly

    caterpillartobutterfly Star commenter

    Go back to your appraiser and clarify exactly what is expected. Mention that you are happy to track the progress, but as you have no responsibility for the staff teaching, nor for the pupils, there will be little you can do if the tracking flags up problems. Then let them decide if they are happy with this or not. If so, ensure it is clear that your responsibility is merely to track, nothing more.

    If the target is to merely track the progress, but have no responsibility for the teaching or ensuring progress, then I'd accept it like a shot! Tracking is easy, it's the getting the bug gers to actually learn anything that's hard!
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  7. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    Do not agree to data-based targets. They are not valid, lack rigour and your pay should not depend on such things.
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  8. cingirl

    cingirl New commenter

    We do 3 targets for full time staff and 2 for part time - check with your union.
  9. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    I had 3 targets as 0.6.

    The objectives are not additional to your normal duties. They are a way of concentrating your mind on certain aspects of your duties. Prioritising. They are part of your workload. But these are the ones by which you will be particularly judged. The number of objectives doesn't increase what you have to do.
  10. delmamerchant

    delmamerchant Established commenter

    Thank you for your advice. I do not manage the staff that teach these pupils. Also, to have to go onto the system, go through data, find out what particular lessons they are in, email teacher to say that I am coming to observe them in lesson is all very time consuming. Then to try and discuss with teacher what could possibly be the reason that they are not achieving is time consuming. Secondly, a member of my department is actually the KS3 lead so surely this is something that they should be doing.

    In addition, I am not sure how this is in anyway going to contribute to my professional development.
  11. delmamerchant

    delmamerchant Established commenter

    This is good as, I will have to look specifically for the data and teaching timetables for these students. Does not appear to be something that I am at all interested in.
  12. delmamerchant

    delmamerchant Established commenter

    I have looked but it is not written anywhere. Than you.
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  13. delmamerchant

    delmamerchant Established commenter

    I understand what you are saying but tracking is extremely time consuming. Accessing individual tracks and timetables, finding out who the teacher is and when the lesson is, comparing it to my existing TT.
  14. delmamerchant

    delmamerchant Established commenter

    Can I come and work at your school?
  15. delmamerchant

    delmamerchant Established commenter

  16. caterpillartobutterfly

    caterpillartobutterfly Star commenter

    Surely 'tracking' is merely tracking progress? You just log in to whatever system your school uses and find those children and highlight success and failure.
    Yes a little time is needed, but not a lot and it's still heaps less stressful than being responsible for progress.
  17. delmamerchant

    delmamerchant Established commenter

    I have to also go into their lessons and observe them.
  18. sbkrobson

    sbkrobson Star commenter

    O dear.
    Additionally you're going to have to do all of that with the perpetual question "why am I doing this?".
    Additionally you are going to have to tell the people that you are observing in order to achieve this, that it is good for them
    It's like being sent round a multi dead-end maze with boulders strapped to your back.
    It's not much like teaching really, is it?
    Meanwhile some children somewhere need something,
    You can just about hear them somewhere beyond the exit of the maze.
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  19. delmamerchant

    delmamerchant Established commenter

    yep. and those children who need something have been stuck in mainstream classes this year as opposed to letting me run targeted and specific lessons for them.
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  20. sbkrobson

    sbkrobson Star commenter

    I'm really sorry for you. Your target sounds utterly dreadful, like a summary of everything wrong in schools, but being used as a measurement of how good you are, because it is a pm target.
    I hope it doesn't eat into your psyche, that you either achieve a modification of it, or that you find a way to implement it without landing yourself in any sort of doodad.

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