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Another Lib Dem MP

Discussion in 'Personal' started by 6331, Aug 15, 2019.

  1. 6331

    6331 New commenter

    It appears that the Lib Dems are doing quite well at the moment. I have just seen the MP for Totnes in Devon has joined them. I do hope they are successful at the next General Election and that they manage to push through some kind Of Proportional Representation. This would ensure that we will never have a Tory or Labour Govt again elected on a minority of the vote.
  2. dumpty

    dumpty Star commenter

    The problem is any party that comes to the fore through FPTP then does all it can to keep FPTP as it is hard for opponents to break your power clutch and it keeps the riff-raff out.

    Whatever we may think of the Liberals, the idea they would not be the same is a tad hopeful, to put it very nicely.
  3. Ivartheboneless

    Ivartheboneless Star commenter

    Does that mean the Johnson has no majority? What flavour was he/she previously?
  4. anotherauntsally

    anotherauntsally Lead commenter

    No. She’d already left the Tories for Change UK.
  5. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

    Boris still has a majority of one.

    The changeling is Sarah Wollaston, one of three Tory MPs to quit the party in February and join what would become Change UK, but she left that newly-formed party in June.

    She follows ex-Change UK and Labour MP Chuka Umunna in joining the Lib Dems - which now has 14 MPs.
    sodalime likes this.
  6. BillyBobJoe

    BillyBobJoe Established commenter

    Wow! If they keep going at this rate they might hit triple figures before 2050.

    MAGAorMIGA Star commenter

    Does ChangeUK even exist anymore? The most shambolic attempt to set up a new party in history!
    vannie, ilovesooty and nomad like this.
  8. dumpty

    dumpty Star commenter

    Poor Anna Soubry. Another MP who thought she was the only one tuned in, who believed she was loved and admired much, much more than she was and is.

    She is the face of this hypocrisy while Wollaston and even Chukka to a certain degree, have managed to sneak across and keep under the radar.

    Wollaston's move is being buried by Corbyn wanting to be PM through the no confidence vote.

    Soubry is indeed so much the official face of failure, it is far from certain the LDs would welcome her to the fold.

    I don't think you ever hear Change UK calling for a GE - they want the referendum as it gives them a few more years before being booted out of office.
    artboyusa likes this.
  9. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    14 MPs? So only 33 more and they can equal their high water mark from 2010.

    nomad likes this.
  10. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Are you posting from 2009?
    artboyusa likes this.
  11. 6331

    6331 New commenter

    No - 2019. A time when people are fed up at the right wing direction of the Tory party and havnt got the stomach for left wing, antisemitic rantings under a Corbyn led Labour. I hope the Lib dems and Greens can come to some arrangement
  12. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

    The arrangement is LibDems don't stand in Brighton and the Greens don't stand anywhere else.
  13. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Well I don't disagree on wanting to see politics expunged of the big two but the shot at PR was back in 2011. It was rejected.
  14. 6331

    6331 New commenter

    Actually it wasnt. That was for the alternative vote - not proportional representation. Personally I would like to see them go for this without a referendum - we havnt got a good track record with holding referendums. PR would force parties to talk to each other and compromise. Not a bad thing
    eljefeb90 likes this.
  15. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

    You would need to agree what type of PR first.
  16. blue451

    blue451 Lead commenter


    Like Chuka then, left with a flurry of press calls to form a new party which they hoped would propel them to positions of power. Then realised it had flopped and saw the LibDems as a better route to personal glory.

    Why not just join the LibDems in the first place, if it's about political conviction?
    ilovesooty and monicabilongame like this.
  17. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Kind of agree with you... kinda sick of the piecemeal, what suits which party when, approach to politics that appears to have dominated since Blair [at least that I've been aware of]
  18. MAGAorMIGA

    MAGAorMIGA Star commenter

  19. BillyBobJoe

    BillyBobJoe Established commenter

    MMP, same as we already use in Scotland.
    sodalime likes this.
  20. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

    I prefer d'Hondt. Looks like we will have to have a referendum to decide.

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