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Another agency con?

Discussion in 'Supply teaching' started by Jolly_Roger15, Aug 31, 2019.

  1. Jolly_Roger15

    Jolly_Roger15 Star commenter

    On Thursday, i was cold called by an agency the name of which begins with the indefinite article followed by the word for the tall, pointed structure atop a church. It started off with the usual 'i saw your CV online' guff, and then went on to 'have had had any recent school experience?' bit. When I said no, he made himself sound disappointed, and regretted that i would not pass 'compliance' without a school reference from the last two years. Then, he appeared to have an idea, telling me that if i did voluntary work in a school for a fortnight, and got a reference, this would get around the compliance problem. I really became suspicious when he said, "Would you like me to arrange this? I've got contacts in many schools local to you."
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  2. Deirds

    Deirds Senior commenter

    Having taken a lengthy career break some agencies wouldn’t take me on. The one named after a water plant accepted character references.
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  3. Deirds

    Deirds Senior commenter

    You could,if you wanted, do some voluntary work in schools on your own terms, eg listening to young children read.

    I don’t know if this would be acceptable to you. Are you still applying for work?

    Could you do tutoring? Surely that could count towards references?
    pepper5 likes this.
  4. JohnJCazorla

    JohnJCazorla Star commenter

    Just shows how saturated the supply market is in North London, if there were the same shortages of Maths/Science that exist in West Yorks then compliance would be sailed through.
    So I agree that it's a con so the agency can get a few brownie points with a school.
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  5. Jolly_Roger15

    Jolly_Roger15 Star commenter

    @Deirds : Thank you for your suggestions. I do have a few students that i tutor privately. I have given up on the fantasy of working in schools again, in a paid capacity anyway. When I was still hoping to get back into teaching, i did contact schools, offering to do some voluntary work but none replied.

    I still get call from agencies, of the, "I saw your CV online," sort, usually trying to inveigle me into working for nothing, to 'put something back':mad:. An agency trying to cash in on someone's need to do voluntary work, in order to get a recent reference, is a new one on me!
    pepper5 and JohnJCazorla like this.
  6. Deirds

    Deirds Senior commenter

    It is disgraceful.
  7. historygrump

    historygrump Star commenter Forum guide

    There is no way school would you a reference, because you did two weeks voluntary work.
    FrauRussell and pepper5 like this.
  8. FrauRussell

    FrauRussell New commenter

    That's a jolly wheeze to get some free work! Is the agency doing it for nothing too? How noble. It's disgraceful.
  9. FrauRussell

    FrauRussell New commenter

    Put what back exactly????? What did teaching ever give that schools would want back? "Here, school XYZ, have our WRS, sleepless nights, marking load". Oh how we laughed!
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  10. Jolly_Roger15

    Jolly_Roger15 Star commenter

    @FrauRussell : Being offered a 'chance to put something back' as euphemism for unpaid work is a common experience for retired teachers who are still trying to find teaching work to supplement their pensions. Some heads seem to think that we are sitting at home, with out fat pensions, and so are ripe for exploitation.

    Former colleagues and i have been to interviews for teaching jobs, advertised in the usual way, only to be offered the position but without the salary! I find galling to be asked to work for free by someone earning a seven figure salary, and wearing a suit worth more than my car.
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  11. girlychemist

    girlychemist New commenter

    I always ask HoD for a reference when i am in a school. If for any reason they don't give me one I get one from the Agency I worked for at that school. Agencies in my experience will accept a reference from another agency.
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  12. JohnJCazorla

    JohnJCazorla Star commenter

    They will and if they won't then it's because they aren't bothered if you're on their books or not (when there isn't enough work to go round their regulars, for instance)
    All agencies want is "JJC worked at this school on these dates and no safeguarding problems", that can be done by another agency on the phone and you can bet the phone will be ringing if they have the chance for JJC to provide them some commission.
  13. bramblesarah

    bramblesarah Occasional commenter

    I have had a lot of issues with agencies accepting other agencies references. Saying we need an in-depth reference.

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