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An MP's role in Parliament.

Discussion in 'Personal' started by jubilee, Oct 21, 2019.

  1. jubilee

    jubilee Star commenter

    I like this statement from Edmund Burke in 1774 that was highlighted in a letter to The Guradian today.

    "Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgement: and he betrays, instead of serving you, if he sacrifices it to your opinion."
     
  2. anotherauntsally

    anotherauntsally Lead commenter

  3. jubilee

    jubilee Star commenter

    Thank you for that, #anotherauntsally
     
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  4. colpee

    colpee Star commenter

    i.e you might not get what you think you are voting for, even if it has been promised to you.
     
  5. moscowbore

    moscowbore Lead commenter

    Of course MPs should vote with their judgement irrespective of deselection committees.
     
  6. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Seems rather idealised and ignorant of the operations of party whips.
     
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  7. jubilee

    jubilee Star commenter

    No. You the voter are not the only constituent and other constituents who voted in the same way as you will not have identical opinions to yours. Your MP is elected to consider issues based on more than just your opinion.
    it is negligent of a PM or government to promise the electorate that something will be passed in parliament. They can only promise that they will put a bill before parliament.
     
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  8. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    If only they would do that instead of continually bleating that the people must decide.
     
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  9. colpee

    colpee Star commenter

    Oh I know what it is meant to mean. Unfortunately politicians are rarely good judges of a situation, and are just as likely to vote for personal preferences and political favours rather than any analysed judgement of what is best for society.
     
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  10. artboyusa

    artboyusa Star commenter

    GASP! I am shocked to hear this. Shocked, I say. All my trust in the lofty ideals and self sacrificing selflessness of politicians is destroyed.
    Thanks. Thanks a lot (sniff).
     
  11. Jude Fawley

    Jude Fawley Star commenter

    Since joining the common market and seeing more and more legislation taken from our parliament, British MPs are now little more than middle management. There are no longer any great orators or statemen/women, only administrators.

    Few can make a speech without referring to notes and hardly any show any passion or commitment.
     
  12. Dragonlady30

    Dragonlady30 Star commenter

    With our first past the post system, MPs are happy to take up their seats when they have the majority of the vote. They can't then, move the goal posts after, say, a referendum. No matter what their person views, they are obliged to follow the instructions of the majority, just like when they were elected. It is their duty to do everything they can to deliver the result, not just keep saying n0. no. no.
     
  13. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Lead commenter

    Should they deliver that irrespective of the consequences?
     
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  14. Dragonlady30

    Dragonlady30 Star commenter

    They should work to ensure that the consequences were a reflection of the wishes of their constituents.
     
  15. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Lead commenter

    I don't think MPs should work hard to ensure all their constituents are worse off, even if it is a consequence of the wishes of some of their constituents.
     
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  16. Dragonlady30

    Dragonlady30 Star commenter

    What is the point of democracy when MPs just do what they want?

    By 'some of their constituents', do you mean the MAJORITY?
     
  17. burajda

    burajda Star commenter

    Post Brexit, I look forward to us having better quality politicians. Outside of the EU our MPs will soon be more like the great orators they have in the USA and Australia.
     
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  18. burajda

    burajda Star commenter

    FPTP means that they rarely represent the majority of their constituents.
     
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  19. MAGAorMIGA

    MAGAorMIGA Star commenter

    MPs need to take an awful lot more into account than just the wishes of their constituents. They also need to consider the national interest. At the end of the day that should be their prime motivation. Sometimes, too, they need to consider their constituents' interests, when they don't coincide with their wishes. If a majority of their constituents take a decision which will result in significant levels of harm to a minority of their constituents, then MPs are fully justified in ignoring or failing to act on those views. The Brexit decision is like a small majority of passengers on a bus ordering the driver to drive the vehicle into the hedge, then berating the driver when, reacting to the screams of the other passengers, he tries not to do so.
     
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  20. jubilee

    jubilee Star commenter

    There is no 'obliged' about it with an advisory referendum.
    Make that referendum obligatory restrospectively and the Electoral Commission will step in and annul the result for electoral illegalities.
     

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