1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.
  2. Hi Guest, welcome to the TES Community!

    Connect with like-minded education professionals and have your say on the issues that matter to you.

    Don't forget to look at the how to guide.

    Dismiss Notice

Am I useless?

Discussion in 'Workplace dilemmas' started by libby77, Feb 15, 2016.

  1. libby77

    libby77 Occasional commenter

    I posted my scenario here last week. I'm currently facing a disciplinary investigation as I got very upset and banged my hand on a door (after school hours and whilst I had convinced myself that I was about to lose my job as the head had informed me she had invited my union rep to school and wanted to have a formal discussion). The circumstances are very complex but I am diagnosed with anxiety and have a stress risk assessment at work. That day I had had the chair of governors stand outside my classroom door watching me teach and I'd watched the chair of governors and head take members of my team to the heads office and ask questions about me. No member of SLT spoke to me throughout the day.

    The letter states that I shouldn't be a teacher.

    I have been a teacher for 10 years. I care no end about the children and their learning. I work my socks off marking, responding to their comments in marking etc, planning, data etc etc etc. I have been observed as outstanding in 3 different schools (including this one!).

    I am so devastated by that one comment. I desperately want to apply for jobs elsewhere where I know I will be valued and will do a great job without pressure from unhappy SLT. I don't know what to do about a reference :-( I could be off suspended for anything up to 8 months. The thought of it is stressing me.

    Just feeling very very low and stressed.
  2. caterpillartobutterfly

    caterpillartobutterfly Star commenter

    Being suspended might be a good thing, at least you don't have to turn up in that god forsaken place each day.
    Talk to your union and get applying for other jobs. Your reference will be fab as they want rid of you.
    dljames2013 likes this.
  3. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter

    You need Union help, and not the school rep, at a higher level. And write down and keep at home a record of everything that has happened or is said to you.
  4. aspensquiver_2

    aspensquiver_2 Senior commenter

    Try to remain calm and be as professional as you can be in the circumstances. I agree you need help and support from a Union.
  5. Torey

    Torey Occasional commenter

    You need advice from an employment solicitor that specialises in disability discrimination as well as union support at at least regional level. In your situation I think a solicitor should be responding to the school.
    aspensquiver_2 likes this.
  6. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    You banged your hand on the door? And that warrants a disciplinary investigation?

    Wow, I'm lucky some of the stuff I've got away with.

    But seriously... YOU ARE NOT USELESS!!! Ten years... ten years and a team leader. Do not let them undermine your confidence in yourself.

    Keep a record of everything from now on, record or note conversations, ask for specific instructions, ask for everything in writing, email work emails home. Print them off. Protect yourself.

    And maybe... get the hell out and find a job which appreciates you? Just a thought...
  7. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    Yes, you deserve better, and they deserve less

    Onwards and upwards

    Good luck!
    aspensquiver_2 likes this.
  8. libby77

    libby77 Occasional commenter

    Thanks all.

    I really did just get upset and bang my hang on a door. I've even had to go to the doctors to prove there's not a mark on my hand :-( They are stating it could be gross misconduct. I have looked at the definitions of gross misconduct and they are very serious and understandable.

    They have said its against teacher standards but I can't find anything in there? It's increasing my anxiety and causing more illness :-(
  9. libby77

    libby77 Occasional commenter

    I just don't know what happens if I'm suspended but want to apply for jobs? There's one or two coming up that I would like to apply for.
  10. Flere-Imsaho

    Flere-Imsaho Star commenter

    You are not useless.

    It sounds like a complex situation has been dealt with badly. Take the advice above and good luck.
    aspensquiver_2 likes this.
  11. caterpillartobutterfly

    caterpillartobutterfly Star commenter

    If you haven't been suspended by now, then you almost certainly won't be.
    It isn't gross misconduct, but who knows what happens when a nasty head liaises with the chair of the disciplinary panel before the hearing...yes they do, I know it!
    Like others have said, get the hell out.
    aspensquiver_2 likes this.
  12. libby77

    libby77 Occasional commenter

    I have been suspended :-( pending potentially up to 8 months investigation.
  13. caterpillartobutterfly

    caterpillartobutterfly Star commenter

    Oh bloody hell!
    Take the time to get out and about, visit parts of the country you have never seen.
    Make plans to leave.
    Apply for other jobs, you can get another with a less than perfect disciplinary record, promise.
    dljames2013 likes this.
  14. libby77

    libby77 Occasional commenter

    I don't have a disciplinary on my record but am suspended pending disciplinary investigation. The school did the same about 6 months ago. They tried to give me a disciplinary for telling a deputy I'd had suicidal thoughts. It was then retracted. It's exactly the same scenario. I am diagnosed with an illness. They put me under huge stress and I got upset. BAM! At a time I need a little support they punish. In turn its made my illness 100 times worse :-(
  15. libby77

    libby77 Occasional commenter

    I want to leave but am worried about being currently suspended and getting a reference???? There's some jobs advertising right now that I'd love to apply for
  16. caterpillartobutterfly

    caterpillartobutterfly Star commenter

    Apply and see what happens...you won't know if you don't try.
    Ask Theo on jobseekers about how to address the disciplinary thing to your advantage in your application.
    Dragonlady30 and aspensquiver_2 like this.
  17. Compassman

    Compassman Star commenter

    Is it me or are some heads completely out of control?
    joannagb and petenewton like this.
  18. Torey

    Torey Occasional commenter

    I was taking my head to a tribunal and still got a job. Please get legal advice.
    joannagb likes this.
  19. libby77

    libby77 Occasional commenter

    It's just so upsetting :-( Going back the last time after the retracted disciplinary was so hard but I held my head up. It did so much damage psychologically :-(

    This is worse. I am allowed to talk to staff but not about anything to do with the day I got upset. I have close colleagues and friends too (I work with 3 year partners). I sent them all a message to wish them a happy half term. None have replied :-( I have been removed from Facebook from one. It's so hard. I really need support right now but they have probably been told they are not allowed to talk to me :-(
  20. caterpillartobutterfly

    caterpillartobutterfly Star commenter

    They may well have been threatened with disciplinary themselves if they speak to you. I was off with work related stress and staff were categorically told in a briefing that if they contacted me via any means they would be disciplined. It takes brave people, with nothing to lose themselves, to risk that.

    You also don't know what SLT have given staff as the reason for your absence and what has been falsely implied.

    Forget what is going on in that place and get applying elsewhere. There is a light at the end of your long and bumpy tunnel...you can get there.

Share This Page