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Agencies? Parasites more like.

Discussion in 'Supply teaching' started by skye78, Dec 19, 2019.

  1. skye78

    skye78 New commenter

    Hello again everyone, hope you're all well. I haven't been on here for a while now, not since quitting education a few months ago after years of being messed around, stressed to the max and made to feel inadequate unless I worked for 20 hours minimum daily.

    However, despite having a new job, a certain agency found my CV online which states I have no desire to work in teaching again and said they needed me to register with them for an urgent job from Jan-July next year in a school in the area. I explained why I could not help out, that I have a job lined up and no desire to teach ever again - do they even read CVs I wonder? - and received a rude reply back stating I had let the school down! Erm, I am not even registered with this or any other edcuational agencies so how is it MY fault?

    These agencies never fail to amaze me. I used to love teaching, but the unrealistic demands and expectations coupled with parasitic agencies means I will never look back nor will I return.

    Any other horror stories linked to agencies?
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  2. physicsfanboy

    physicsfanboy Occasional commenter

    Erm, what?!
    If this school are depending on a random teacher that has no connection with them, they are in much deeper trouble than merely missing a teacher!

    As for agency horror stories...yes I have a couple of dozen.
    Funniest was one asking me to do a trial week. I may have been less than restrained.
  3. Jolly_Roger15

    Jolly_Roger15 Star commenter

    @skye78: I daresay the job was as nonexistent as the school.
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  4. abwdSTEM

    abwdSTEM Occasional commenter

    I once had an agency I wasn't (or ever had been) registered with contact me saying that had a role in a very good school who had specifically asked for me. I had never worked in that school or had worked with any of the staff in the school (I looked on their website to see if I had).. In addition I was already on a long term placement in a school I liked with an agency I liked and not in the market for this or any other role.

    The agency seemed a little surprised and couldn't understand why I turned them down, :confused:
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  5. sbkrobson

    sbkrobson Star commenter

    Intriguing beasts, teacher supply agencies.
    The last few years have really been a race to the bottom.
    And yet one of these estate agenty know nothings has in fact previously sourced me a very lucrative role. So I guess there's food enough when this happens to give them opportunism.
    Recently I've been digging around trying to work out what makes these people tick. How did they get to this place where they are happy to call you the wrong name, phone you on Friday at breaktime and ask if you can go to Saudi Arabia on Monday, promise you "The Ultimate Umbrella Experience", and try to sell you a school on the basis of there being a "Good Esso for coffee" by the motorway exit?
    There's the answer.
    Every existing suspect supply agency is founded by a shiny breakaway entrepreneur who cut their teeth with a bigger agency. They were all at one point employed by somebody bigger, and now they have splintered off into sometimes just one-man gigs. They pilfer teachers from the books, pilfer the training they got in house, and go it alone.
    It's all there on LinkdIn. Have a look. The big reveal. Commission piggy backing.
    So if another agent bothers you with the wrong name, subject and gender, ask them if their old company knows what they are doing. Or better still, go to their old company and say in an Eastern Spy accent "do you know what Gavin is doing now with information farmed from you?"
    It's fun. More to the point, that bigger agent will then happily find you some work in gratitude.
  6. skye78

    skye78 New commenter

    Funnily enough, I thought exactly the same as you! And a trial week?! What are these people on?!
  7. skye78

    skye78 New commenter

    I suspect this to be true also - purely a way to get me on their books. No chance.
  8. skye78

    skye78 New commenter

    My goodness - the way some agencies behave is absolutely shocking!
  9. skye78

    skye78 New commenter

    I love this! And if any other agencies get in touch with their nonsense, I shall be using your message against them. Thank you!
  10. hhhh

    hhhh Lead commenter

    It used to annoy me when they contacted me about a London school requiring a KS2 Music specialist full-time teacher, when I had registered for A-level English teaching max 2 days per week in Aberdeen-I'm not exaggerating by much, either! How do they get away with it with GDPR?
  11. a1976

    a1976 Occasional commenter

    Hmmmm, very familiar situation indeed. I recall a certain agent who used to take it upon himself to ring me and basically harass me about going to rough schools. This person left the agency and began working for another agency that starts with a C, and that was after he had stolen/taken the supply list from the first agency (the one he left). Quite a shady guy to say the least. There seems to be a lot of Gavins, Sharon's etc in schools and in agencies these days.
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  12. JohnJCazorla

    JohnJCazorla Star commenter

    Great post, I was with you all the way until you used the words "in gratitude".
    The Parasites' Code of Honour forbids them for doing anything charitable or grateful. Profit first, last and always is the creed.
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  13. Jolly_Roger15

    Jolly_Roger15 Star commenter

    I wonder if agency 'consultants' have a limited list of pseudonyms, as so many of them seem to have the same sort of names; like 'Georgie', 'Paige', etc.
  14. sbkrobson

    sbkrobson Star commenter

    Don't know about names, but I was amused to discover the other week that one "consultant" with whom I had had contact was actually additionally a Butlin's DJ.
    This intrinsic lack of correlation ought not to explain anything, and yet after a mere five minute phone encounter I felt it explained so much.
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  15. MissGeorgi

    MissGeorgi Occasional commenter

    If I had a message like that, say on Linked In, I’d screen shot it and stick it on the nearest comment thread of that “company”. Or make a formal complaint against the person via their HR. We need more naming and shaming.
  16. Jolly_Roger15

    Jolly_Roger15 Star commenter

    Sounds like the sort of 'experience' visited on Georgi Markov! I suppose some of these 'breakaway entrepreneurs' are the modern equivalent of the 'spivs' of the post-war period. In place of the the suitcase of knocked off nylons and dodgy petrol coupons, these have a laptop and a mobile phone.
    Last edited: Dec 22, 2019
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  17. SineField

    SineField Occasional commenter

    Supply agencies are not parasites.... they exploit the rampant idiocy that exists in schools.

    An enormous difference.
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  18. JohnJCazorla

    JohnJCazorla Star commenter

    No they're still parasites, even though they do precisely as you describe.

    Unfortunately it also makes me a parasite as I thrive (financially, educationally and emotionally) at the more disorganised schools.
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  19. SineField

    SineField Occasional commenter

    You are mistaken:

    Parasite (noun): One who habitually takes advantage of the generosity of others without making any useful return.

    Supply agencies do provide a useful (albeit expensive) service.... they provide schools with staff on a short to long term basis that the schools through their own incompetence have been unable to attract and/or retain of their own accord. This same logic explains why you also are not a parasite.

    As I said, exploiting a schools incompetence is not remotely the same as being a parasite.

    Teachers being for the most part (there are exceptions!), deluded leftie snowflakes, have an unfortunate tendency to fail to realise how the real world works, preferring instead to stand on their soap boxes ranting and raving, calling the Tories Nazis or some other such gibberish....

    If the gazelle doesn't run quickly enough.... it gets eaten by the lion.

    If the school is run by spineless, so called 'liberals' that can't understand that teacher welfare is paramount to education success, believe that hand-holding children through their entire KS1-KS5 lifecycle is excellent teaching practice, think that a textbook is a heretical manuscript, refuse to stand up to idiot parents, promote 'yes men' at the drop of the hat........ and thus has high staff turnover...... then they get rightly hammered for £320/day by agencies to get hold of a decent STEM teacher.

    I have no sympathy for schools in this respect..... the people with their hands on the purse strings often have little business acumen and zero common sense.... exactly as you would expect from anyone on the socio-political left.

    I mean come on..... what on earth do you think is going to happen? A bleeding fish jumps into a shark tank..... are you really surprised with the outcome? Whose fault is it?
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  20. steviepal

    steviepal Occasional commenter

    Wow. With all those chips on your shoulder you must have real problems with seagulls mobbing you. Steady now.

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