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Agencies advertising fake vacancies

Discussion in 'Supply teaching' started by Iulbahar, May 15, 2019.

  1. Iulbahar

    Iulbahar New commenter

    Yesterday I saw an advertisment for a long term supply vacancy in my subject in the town where I live. It is a very small town (village, really) and there is only one secondary school. The ad was very specific about the job they were offering and the person they were looking for. When I clicked on the link it turned out it was through an agency I am already in the process of getting registered with, so I called them to express an interest, only to be told that it was just a general advert to encourage teachers to register with them. I imagine once my registration is processed I will be offered day to day supply in other places miles away. Does anyone else think this is morally questionable, particularly as being the only school in the area any applicants would assume they know which school is advertising the vacancy?
  2. bonxie

    bonxie Senior commenter

    I wonder when the agency will realise that that kind of dishonest behaviour is likely to discourage anyone from registering with them.
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  3. NQT08

    NQT08 Occasional commenter

    Common practice with agencies in education and other industries
  4. Jesmond12

    Jesmond12 Star commenter

    I would have contacted the school to ask them about their so called vacancy.

    If they confirm that there is not one advise them that the agency are saying that there is- they are probably not aware of this.
    Chirpy1, JohnJCazorla, JL48 and 3 others like this.
  5. elvispenhaligon

    elvispenhaligon Occasional commenter

    Do that. Contact the school. Specifically the head.
    JL48, pepper5, bonxie and 2 others like this.
  6. FrauRussell

    FrauRussell New commenter

    Sadly, yes, it is common practice. I know the first time I came across it, I got excited at the prospect of being in the running for what appeared to be an eminently suitable post. I was quite miffed, but actually the agency did offer me suitable work in other schools, so it turned out OK. I would say, why bother?, when it comes to contacting the school. Pick your battles. Of course, you could send your CV to the school and let them know you are available for direct employment should the need arise, as the agency clearly won't be introducing you anytime soon. This way you may get something positive out of it.
    agathamorse likes this.
  7. dunnocks

    dunnocks Star commenter

    Report to advertising standards

    Every single time.

    I do, every complaint I have ever made about this has been upheld. if enough of us do it, agencies will have to stop lying.

    Make sure you take a screen shot, then just email it in
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  8. freshfriesan

    freshfriesan Occasional commenter

    How's about being told your starting a position in a few weeks. You're booked in for the next term and getting a phone call everyday in the lead up to supposedly starting the position ("including weekends, evenings and eRly mornings) to discover that it was never a given, agency were just stringing yoj along. Must find her confirmation email. Tone to get heavy with these fraudsters.
    agathamorse likes this.
  9. dunnocks

    dunnocks Star commenter

    small claims court for breach of contract
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  10. Jolly_Roger15

    Jolly_Roger15 Star commenter

    @freshfriesan : As a rule of thumb, the further in the future a long-term supply position starts, the more likely it is to disappear before you start. Many people have had the experience of being told that they will not be needed on the day before they are due to start. This is especially galling if you have done extensive preparation for the role.
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  11. freshfriesan

    freshfriesan Occasional commenter

    Yeah, they just don't want you taking a booking elsewhere. I wouldn't have been bothered by it but the daily, sometimes twice daily disturbance of her.
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  12. freshfriesan

    freshfriesan Occasional commenter

    I had as good as after Christmas also. School informed agency they had changed their minds on last day of Christmas holidays, agency were scum, so this one is getting pursued also. Glad to say I've just found a booking confirmation from the agency, worth a shot. I think all it is is the universe telling me stay away from these fookers. Be self employed and make no more money for them.
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  13. thewritingsupply

    thewritingsupply Occasional commenter

    Had this recently. Saw an advert from an agency I’m registered with looking for a teacher with my specialism in FE. I contacted them to ask about the opportunity on three seperate occasions. Nobody got back to me, and the advert’s been renewed again online.

    1 - they found somebody else for the opportunity.

    2 - it was a fake advert to drum up more business, which is more than likely as they seem to have quite a few opportunities available for specialist teachers advertised online at present.
    agathamorse and pepper5 like this.
  14. nearmiss

    nearmiss Lead commenter

    At the moment, it is still legal under advertising standards to show "illustrative examples" of the sort of role the agency might potentially mediate for you. Obviously, it's reprehensible and just bait to get more people to sign up. This in turn drives wages down. Newbies to agencies tend to get offered plenty of work, all over the place, on odd day to day placements, this means that should a real vacancy arise, and that person applies, the agency can claim a finder's fee as they've been deliberately placed in all the schools with predictably high staff turnover. It also means that, if they don't get a permanent job through the agency, and remain on supply, that teacher will find it a lot harder to qualify for full pay under Agency Workers Regulations. They'll get work for about 12 weeks on NQT pay or lower, and then it will dry up. Meanwhile, other agencies, are signing up new people with tempting adverts, punting the applicants out at low pay to the same schools, who opt for the cheapest offer, and thus the (not so merry) merry-go-round of multiple agencies, sporadic work, low pay keeps generating its own momentum. It's an appalling scandal in our schools and no way to treat children or teachers. Schools need stability, even with their temporary staff, not random picks who chop and change every week.

    SEBREGIS Lead commenter

    I wouldn’t lose a lot of sleep about it either way. If you ring them up and they can’t put you forward for a job they’ve advertised, just put the phone down. No one says you have to register etc. Agencies have their uses but I’ve only worked with one I felt deserved any ‘loyalty’, as they supplied work consistently when I needed it and were pleasant and efficient.
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  16. cathr

    cathr Occasional commenter

    At least they were honest! This happened to me too but I was told the vacancy had been filled....!
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  17. dunnocks

    dunnocks Star commenter

    I don't think it is legal, unless to specifies it is an "illustrative example".

    I have complained to advertising standards about such adverts in the past, and have had my complaint upheld every time, the agencies have been forced to remove the ads, and have been warned never to post such misleading adverts ever again.
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  18. Iulbahar

    Iulbahar New commenter

    Yes, me too, especially as it was a 5 minute drive from home.

    I was considering doing just that, but decided it might lead to my being black listed by the agency.

    Incidentally, I had a conversation with a pupil from that school last week and it sounds like the behaviour is appalling so I'm not too keen on working there anyway now.
    agathamorse likes this.
  19. Izzi

    Izzi New commenter

    I responded to one of these fake adverts too through an agency I was already registered with. I was told the school were really keen and wanted to interview me the next day. I needed to give a little more notice to the school I was already working in so it was agreed that the interview would take place a couple of days later. When I rang to check the exact details, I was told that the vacancy had been filled. However, the advert appeared again about 2 weeks later with the same wording which was quite specific to that particular job and school.

    Had another one where I was told I had a job starting in September but by the time the end of the summer holidays were approaching, I found out that the job didn't exist.
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  20. Jolly_Roger15

    Jolly_Roger15 Star commenter

    I am sorry this happened to you. Something similar happened to me when i was naive and new to the supply game. I did a lot of preparation (SoWs, etc) for a long-term job that disappeared the day before i was due to start.
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