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Discussion in 'Personal' started by roobarbancustard, Jun 10, 2011.

  1. The average age must 50 I would say. Our head is a good bit younger early 30s and only four years classroom experience. I am 49 but came into teaching only 12 years ago and worked in completely unrelated area of life. So working full time 28 years. Proud of my working life no thoughts of retirement - no way could I afford to etc All I can say is management of a school requires someone with a vast wealth of experience, dedication, love of children, an open mind and good communication skills. Best head I ever worked with was 45 years in the classroom, a skilled diplomat (she should have been an ambassador with the UN), wicked sense of humour, humane and never lost the drive to improve her skills as a classroom practitioner or to encourage us. She is still teaching (adults) in her retirement and has subbed for the primary school too. A class act. So age...only worries those who feel threatened by it in someway they don't know what they are missing.
  2. lilachardy

    lilachardy Star commenter

    67 I think.
  3. giraffe

    giraffe New commenter

    Full time there are several in late 50s and early 60s.

    One to one govt funded there are several retired doing a few hours a week.
  4. CarrieV

    CarrieV Lead commenter

    I'm the oldest at 50, a colleague is half my age[​IMG]
  5. guinnesspuss

    guinnesspuss Star commenter

    10 over 55's retired in the last year even if they couldn't afford to go early, and actually only 2 / 10 really wanted to retire. Any over 50 were given a hard time till they 'left.' Oldest now is 45.
    It is a trend that seems to be rife in so many schools at the moment that I wonder if there's been a decree from higher up:
    "Get rid of the oldies"
    Someone should do a study.
  6. 48. Many are much younger- I am nearer retirement than their age! I am late into teaching and shocked how older teachers are regarded with disdain by younger, senior colleagues. I am approaching the oldest since many are retiring.
  7. when i moved from my previous school to where i am now, was the age thing a culture shock - everyone seemed so *young*i am 10 years older than the head, and have for many years been friends with the head of maths' mum
    having said that, our oldest ta is well over retirement age - 67 maybe (hard to tell - she looks *amazing* for her age)
    and our longest serving head retired at 72 (so if you work anywhere near here, you so now know where i work)
  8. I was hounded out of my last full time post. At 55 I was clearly much to old when neither head, deputy or Key Stage leaders had reached 30!!! They made it very clear I didn't fit their profile. When I'd arrived at the school just 3 years earlier there were quite a few older members of staff but they soon went.
  9. At 28, I'm the youngest male teacher at my school, although there's one or two younger female teachers. The oldest teacher I've worked with is 63 (and still full time), and he has more energy than someone a third of his age!
  10. magic surf bus

    magic surf bus Star commenter

    When I started at my last school I was the youngest teacher whilst aged 29-30. By the time I left aged 50 I was among the last 8 oldest, because the over 50s were fleeing the new Headteacher's regime at a rate of knots.
    I've worked supply in a secondary school where there's hardly any grey hair visible among the staff and most of them look about 12. I reckon their over 50s have been quietly done away with and buried under the long jump pit - scary place.
    When I started teaching there were still a couple of teachers who reminisced about service in WWII, so they must have been into their 60s.
  11. Me. I'm 60 & retiring at the end of the current academic year. Only the caretaker & cleaner are older. Most of the staff are in their 20's & 30's. I became a teacher in my late 40's. I have a good teaching record, excellent relationship with children & parents. I still enjoy being creative but have got fed up with each "new" idea being foisted on the profession. Having only been doing the job for 14 years I am already seeing many of the "good" ideas rubbished 10 years ago starting to come back as the next big idea to raise standards!
  12. lardylegs

    lardylegs Occasional commenter

    this is a real hot potato at the moment. The oldest in our school is 60, and she's going at the end of term, but there are QUITE A FEW chasing her in the year count.
    Governors would like it (A ?LOT) if they started to 'disappear' sooner rather than later.

    So... should teachers hang on till the bitter end, or disappear gradually, by dropping a day a week, each year?
  13. I'm shocked and now feeling quite fearful of the future.
    I was one of the youngest when I joined our staff but I am now rapidly approaching 40 and am now one of the oldest.
    Am I really going to be stuck on the scrap heap because of my age?
  14. It's typical of the era we live in that people are made to feel they should be retiring in their 50s and even 60s. It wasn't always like that. When I started teaching in the 1970s there were probably more older teachers than younger ones. Possibly has something to do with the stresses of the job, behaviour etc that people retire earlier. On the other hand, we never expected senior staff to be under 50, much less in their 30s, as we didn't feel they otherwise had much experience of the game.
    While it's good in some cases for younger teachers to be able to be swiftly promoted if they really have the talent, what I have seen recently is a lot of highly ambitious but not necessarily good teachers learning the promotion game, and getting into positions where they then seem to hide their incompetence behind an ageism where the aim is to get rid of older teachers so they don't show up by comparison.
    We have to get over this hump of ageism because people are no longer "old" and have had it in their 60s now as younger people often seem to think - except when THEY get to that age themselves of course. In a few more generations 80 will be the new 60!
  15. guinnesspuss

    guinnesspuss Star commenter

    Wouldn't this be a good topic for TES to investigate?
    Bev? Anyone in TES office listening?
  16. well, it sure will by pension legislation - how can anyone square a feeling that 'you're too old at 50' with 'no pension till who knows when'
    having looked again at our school, i realise all the class teachers and smt are at least 10 years younger than me - us oldies are ta's, tutors and specialists

  17. ballerina

    ballerina New commenter

    At 33 I am the oldest teacher (not inc head and dep) and have been there the longest (4 years) - i think this is not a good thing, would much prefer to be teaching with teachers with more life experience but I've leaving at the end of the school year when I will be in the middle of the age band - much better
  18. marymoocow

    marymoocow Star commenter

    I had a head who was young and started to put pressure on older staff to leave, not in a bulllying way, more that she couldn't understand as someone promoted young , why anyone older would want to stay as a joe bloggs teacher in the same school til retirement. She was also worried about the budget as there were 4 UPS teachers out of 7. It was only as ofsted approached and she was analysing the quality of teaching, that she admitted that she had finally realised that it was her older UPS teachers that consistently gave good and outstanding lessons and she needed to keep us. The younger staff varied between barely satisfactory and satisfactory with good features at best.

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