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Advice re discrepancy between intervew and actual job

Discussion in 'Workplace dilemmas' started by rizzyp, Sep 13, 2015.

  1. rizzyp

    rizzyp New commenter


    I hope some can advise me about the above.

    At my interview two months ago, I clarified what I'd be teaching and whom. I wanted to make sure that this was something I actually wanted to do, and that I could see myself there for a while. However, due to a department being dropped (!), there were fewer hours available and my timetable shows that almost half of my teaching hours are made up of the subject I didn't want to teach, and which I told them about at the interview.

    I've told my immediate manager this, and they've been very helpful in relaying this info back to the HoD. However, the HoD jsut keeps on adding more hours of the "hated subject!"

    I saw my union rep who said that if there weren't enough hours to go around, it was unlikely they would be able to do anything about it.

    Anyway, apparently, I'm supposed to be having a meeting with the HoD tomorrow. Do I have a leg to stand on?


    PS My contract hasn't come through, yet, even though I've been there for four weeks! My DBS check has also not come through because the HR department made errors on the form!

    PS Is this post in the right place?!
  2. pepper5

    pepper5 Star commenter

    Yes you have posted this in the correct place and your union is probably right. You might just have to accept the school can't give you enough hours in your subject so you might have to work out your notice period and start looking for something else.
  3. emilystrange

    emilystrange Star commenter

    And your contract has to be given to you within two months. Waiting isn't unusual.
  4. escaped_teacher

    escaped_teacher New commenter

    I once left a job because of this - but legally you can't do anything if you are in England. Once you are a teacher, it is assumed you can teach anything and the HT has the right to send you to teach any subject, including a language you don't know or a science you know nothing about and you haven't got a leg to stand on. Been there, done that. Sorry it happened to you, too :(
  5. rizzyp

    rizzyp New commenter

    Thanks for the advice, guys. I appreciate it.

    I'll go to the meeting with the HoD, and see what happens.
  6. mrkeys

    mrkeys Occasional commenter

    I once took a job as an AST and the job did not match my understanding at interview.

    I did not unpack any of my resources and by the Christmas had decided to get out. Despite being on a good salary there were important other factors at stake and I took the first decent opportunity to escape.

    What a shame that the school went into special measures less than a year of me leaving.
  7. Morninglover

    Morninglover Star commenter

    Whilst it is true we are qualified 'to teach' and so can be given other subjects, there are some restrictions - for example 'practical' subjects (parts of DT, Science) require specialist H & S knowledge, as do parts of PE.

    Thus an English teacher could - theoretically - be given RE or History, but not DT....
  8. Rott Weiler

    Rott Weiler Star commenter Forum guide

    rizzyp, it's a common misunderstanding on this forum that the contract hasn't yet been agreed because the contract documents haven't been issued but tthat's not so. The contract is made when they offer you the job and you accept it and the contract is in force from that time. Employers do hav to give you written details of the contract within 8 weeks of starting but that has no real relevance to whether the contract is in force.

    As FF says, most school contracts say that a teacher can be required to teach any subject (although actually RE isn't one of them. There's a specific legal opt out for RE, no-one can be required to teach RE unless specifically hired as an RE teacher in a Faith school).
  9. Morninglover

    Morninglover Star commenter

    You are right...I should have used Geography as the example!

    Mind you, having been made to teach RE in the past, despite being an Historian, I found it a lot easier than I would have found English (for example).
  10. phlogiston

    phlogiston Star commenter

    It's not a good situation.

    I could suggest pointing out with some vigour that you were employed to teach XYz and specifically wanted to avoid subject J. They'll probably turn round and say "tough".

    The school obviously has a problem with finding staff to deliver "the hated subject" and have obviously cut the subject you trained and thought you were interviewing to teach. It sounds like poor planning on the part of the management. I would say that you need consider the likely length of your working relationship with the school. If you knuckle down, you may get extra Brownie points for getting the school out of a fix. Alternatively, they may see you as a pushover and schedule you for the hated subject for therest of time. Similarly, if you take a hard line, they may just issue a redundancy notice or find a lesson inadequate and push you out of the place.

    Stay cool.

    Best wishes


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