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Advice please

Discussion in 'Tes Authors' Group' started by mahfuzx10, Nov 14, 2019.

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  1. mahfuzx10

    mahfuzx10 New commenter

    I wanted to make custom question papers but I find it extremely difficult to crop certain questions from multiple pdfs and then compiling it as one pdf file. Can someone please share how you do it and which software is required to do this. Thanks.
  2. nwilkin

    nwilkin Occasional commenter

    Due to copyright law, you should not be cropping and copying from other peoples PDFs unless you have permission from the copyright owner.
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  3. mahfuzx10

    mahfuzx10 New commenter

    Well, I meant making custom papers from old exam questions.
  4. kghaye

    kghaye New commenter

    If you've got permission to crop and copy, try smallpdf.com and see if there's a way to do it there - lots of options available and a site worth bearing in mind for all sorts of jobs.
  5. nwilkin

    nwilkin Occasional commenter

    Old exam papers are under copyright of the exam board so you would need to ask for their permission first.
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  6. wordsmithDFA

    wordsmithDFA New commenter

    Stop spitting copyright law like you're an expert. We can read. Offer some help and guidance...

    I use Microsoft's Screen Snip feature and Word. You can save docx files as PDF once all your snips are in place.
  7. penyrheol1

    penyrheol1 New commenter

    Hello there wordsmithDFA. She is. You are obviously new to authoring her. nwilkin provides training sessions for authors for TES, is a very successful author herself and, I believe, has a solicitor in the family ( may be corrected here). Established authors are not going to help others break copyright when we are in fact trying to stamp out copyright infringements on the website. You are obviously not an established author as obviously do not mind infringing copyright and also are not aware that authors are not rude to others in this chat room. Please don't bother being rude to me as it will be like water off a ducks back. have a good day
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  8. Gdwaters1

    Gdwaters1 New commenter

    Absolutely echo what @penyrheol1 said. @nwilkin goes out of her way to help and support new authors (and I have found her advice very useful). A quick search on the resources pages makes it very clear that not every author is aware of copyright so it was a very valid point to make. Thank you for all you do @nwilkin!
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  9. wordsmithDFA

    wordsmithDFA New commenter

    Fabulous. I just think that constantly going on about it is unnecessary. More positivity would be enlightening to see around here.
  10. wordsmithDFA

    wordsmithDFA New commenter

    Was it a valid point, though? Custom papers are owned by the person whom created them.

    Assumptions about me will also be water off a duck's back. Ta.
  11. Gdwaters1

    Gdwaters1 New commenter

    I think it’s a valid point if the OP wants to share them on TES, which as the thread is in the authors’ section, suggests that might be the case (although I’ll admit that’s an assumption). I don’t believe exam boards allow that unless you get written permission from them. For example AQA say ‘AQA materials must not be reproduced on third party websites – in any format’.

    If would be frustrating for the OP if they went to lots of effort to create a resource to share, only to find out they were in breach of copyright (which obviously can also have legal ramifications).
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  12. wordsmithDFA

    wordsmithDFA New commenter

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  13. vcurrie19

    vcurrie19 New commenter

    Definitely agree with what you're saying here
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  14. nwilkin

    nwilkin Occasional commenter

    It may seem like bad news but if a potential author is led to believe that copyright law is an afterthought they will put their energy into creating something they may not be able to publish which is waste of energy. This author was asking how to take other people's PDFs which would need permission to use before they started cutting out sections to use. Too many authors are unaware of copyright law (judging from the comments on this and other forums) and it has huge implications for the platform.

    I would not want another author to get into trouble just because they are unaware and so highlighted the bigger issue rather than simply tell someone how to break the law.
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  15. wordsmithDFA

    wordsmithDFA New commenter

  16. wordsmithDFA

    wordsmithDFA New commenter

    At no point was copyright advice even asked for. It isn't your responsibility to enforce it...that's why law is law.

    Try accepting the fact that you're not the only one person who has researched it prior to production. Many people can read, themselves. We wouldn't be here if we weren't capable of it.
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  17. nwilkin

    nwilkin Occasional commenter

    Old exam papers are under copyright and they admitted they were planning on using them and that would have breached copyright law. The author seemed unaware what they were asking for help with, is not allowed. They clearly had not done the research into it even though, as you said, they could have read about it. It is more likely they had not even considered if what they were asking was illegal and so had not thought to even look into it before posting their question. Therefore, I feel it was a justifiable concern to highlight.

    I have seen many instances where authors have inserted cropped PDFs of old exam papers into their work and had no idea it is not allowed. By attempting to help the author avoid falling into the same trap I felt that was the best approach to take. I understand you want to take a different approach in your reply and prefer to tell them how to crop PDFs and that is up to you and an open forum such as this allows you to do that.

    People will approach answering a question in different ways, some will focus on one area others will focus elsewhere. It all gives a full rounded answer and gives the author more information to help them. Attacking authors who are trying to help but have decided on a different tactic does not help anyone.

    You seem to have taken the advice given to another author as a personal slur and have acted very aggressively towards me and in a way that I feel is unjustified. We both want to help the author and acting is such a manner is not the way to do that.
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