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Advice needed re FE post

Discussion in 'Workplace dilemmas' started by JM1976, Jul 27, 2016.

  1. JM1976

    JM1976 New commenter

    Hello all

    I'm not sure if this is something that anyone will be able to help with, but I'm in the middle of a work issue and am needing some advice. I'd like to see if there is anything I can do about the situation I'm in.

    In outline, I work on a sessional basis at a large FE college and have done for five years. I specialise in RE, History and ESOL, but do teach other subjects - Citizenship, Anthropology A level ... Six months ago I managed to persuade those in power to do History and RE A level and GCSE. Unbelievably, neither was offered, and hadn't been for years. The amount of opposition to this has been staggering, including being told that 'there's no demand' for either from the head of the department. The previous post-holder did away with all humanities and languages at A level.

    The post had always been spoken of as if I would do it, alongside Access 3 History, which I've done for the past two years. I've been preparing for six months, including doing all open days, evenings and interview sessions. A few weeks ago the job was advertised nationally (mis-advertised initially, which meant it had to be re-advertised), having been split into two jobs, one for each subject. I was interviewed a week ago, with a day's notice, and then had to wait a week; yesterday I rang to find out what the outcome was and have only been offered a day-a-week RE post, which I'm not going to accept, as the sheer amount of work to teach an A level and GCSE in one day a week would be crazy, plus I can't bear to see someone else doing the History job I created in the first place. I'm absolutely devastated by this. I'd just really like some advice as to if there's anything I can do, even if 'just' making sure that the college knows the damage this has done. I also feel that they have lost a valuable member of staff who would have been dedicated to making these two new subjects work.

    Apologies if I'm rambling a little - this very unexpected turn of events has completely thrown me and messed up future plans big time. The only reason I've been given so far, and a little reluctantly, was that 'We saw someone yesterday who does history' who scored more points on some grid system. To be honest, I'm not sure they even read my letters of application, or took them into account. I also have a suspicion that someone in Access didn't want me on the team, but obviously can't prove that. HR at the college seems to be a disaster: the last post I applied for completely changed from Humanities lecturer, including Critical Thinking, Research, History etc., to being an English Literature post between people applying and being interviewed.

    Thanks in advance for any advice.
  2. caterpillartobutterfly

    caterpillartobutterfly Star commenter

    That's the thing when jobs are advertised nationally, sometimes an external candidate is the better option.

    The college has advertised and interviewed using a grid/points system and someone else came out better. It's a very hard pill to swallow, but they have to appoint the person they see as the best candidate.
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  3. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    Well, the college is getting a good, new member of staff as far as they're concerned so I feel that by complaining you'll only prove they were right not to hire you.

    Sorry. They saw someone they liked. Maybe that person is cheaper? Or just better? Has more experience? Any one of a million reasons. But do be dignified about it.
  4. caterpillartobutterfly

    caterpillartobutterfly Star commenter

    Sorry this is a bit off topic, but maybe not...

    Ages and ages ago I was in my then headteacher's office having a huge strop about something (I was young and in my 20s, what can I say?!). I was really upset and annoyed about some decision or other, can't even remember what now. But I can still picture him sitting there looking very serious and slightly stern and saying "You don't have to like my decision, but please do be dignified about it." I remember wanting to stamp my foot in a very undignified manner at that point. :oops:

    Reading that phrase in your post made me imagine the OP stamping his/her foot in a similar manner while reading the forums. (Sorry OP, you probably are far more mature and dignified than me and wouldn't dream of any such action.)

    Ahhh well, kept me amused! :D
  5. cazzmusic1

    cazzmusic1 New commenter

    Hi @JM1976

    Sorry to hear that your college didn't appoint you to the post.

    Will you suffer a reduction in student contact hours for academic year 2016-17? There are measures that you can take that MAY protect you from a reduction in contact hours if you have enough continuous service. You do need to consult a qualified legal adviser though - FE teaching unions can help if you are a member.

    Please ignore if this isn't relevant.

    Best wishes

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  6. hhhh

    hhhh Star commenter

    Sad thing is that these days it does seem to be unqualified teachers using a grid HR system-HR instead of a good head choosing.
    I'm sure some of the best teachers I've worked with over the years would never have been appointed.
  7. JM1976

    JM1976 New commenter

    Appreciate that, but in this case I created the post - a sixth form centre that doesn't do History A level? - did all the legwork, and the role was always talked about as something I'd be doing, esp. as I'd taught Access 3 History for two years, in addition to many other subjects, including other A levels. I didn't even know it was going to be advertised until it was.
  8. JM1976

    JM1976 New commenter

    I wouldn't dream of being anything but. But understand that this wasn't a straightforward job advertisement - I created the post, did all the legwork, and the role was always talked about as something I'd be doing, esp. as I'd taught Access 3 History for two years, in addition to many other subjects, including at A level. I didn't even know it was going to be advertised nationally until it was.

    Of course there are other teachers who more than capable of doing the job. But they haven't spent six months doing many, many hours of (unpaid) work setting it up in the first place.

    Apologies if this sounds a little stroppy. It isn't meant to. I'm sure you'd be as frustrated in the same position!
  9. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    I know, I know. But times change.

    I understand you gave your labour in anticipation of getting the job. I understand your hopes have been dashed. But that's all they ever were. Hopes. Nothing concrete.

    You did good work and students will benefit. Nobody will ever stop you from working hard and adding value even if it's to your own detriment.

    You did well. That hasn't been recognised. Just take it as a life-lesson. Would you do the same again? Maybe yes and maybe no. But let it go.

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