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Acceptable words/phrases

Discussion in 'Personal' started by EmanuelShadrack, May 10, 2019.

  1. HolyMahogany

    HolyMahogany Senior commenter

    What does the D in SEND stand for?
  2. EmanuelShadrack

    EmanuelShadrack Star commenter

  3. Duke of York

    Duke of York Star commenter

    Will we be having people of colour history month from now on?
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  4. Ellakits

    Ellakits Senior commenter

    Oriental appears to have disappeared, or at least been replaced by Asian, which is far less specific.

    I’m not sure whether that is due to P.C. requirements, or whether that’s been driven by those from the area formerly known as ‘the Orient’.

    In fact, I can’t work out whether it’s offensive, or just obsolete.
  5. ilovesooty

    ilovesooty Star commenter

    Oriental is now considered a description of carpets not of people.
  6. Ellakits

    Ellakits Senior commenter

    Illegitimate, when applied to people born to unwed parents. Still seems fine when describing an opinion or argument.

    I don’t think there’s a newer equivalent, I think it’s just not mentioned any more.
  7. Ellakits

    Ellakits Senior commenter

    Really? Thanks for the info.

    Is there a newer equivalent, or has the geographical description just broadened out to the whole of Asia?
  8. les25paul

    les25paul Star commenter

    Modern PC bull:

    Black/White/People of Colour/Mixed Race/Dual Heritage.

    No nonsense replacement:

    Human beings
    dunnocks likes this.
  9. Ellakits

    Ellakits Senior commenter

    @ilovesooty Is ‘far East’ still allowed?

    ‘Middle East’ still exists, so wondering.
  10. ilovesooty

    ilovesooty Star commenter

    I hadn't thought about that one actually.
    I think East Asian would be an alternative to Oriental
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  11. ilovesooty

    ilovesooty Star commenter

    There are occasions when ethnicity has to be defined. It doesn't make anyone less human.
    needabreak likes this.
  12. Ellakits

    Ellakits Senior commenter

    Third World. Now replaced by Developing Countries.
  13. EmanuelShadrack

    EmanuelShadrack Star commenter

    I was wondering how the replacement might affect the acronym "BAME", but even here I can see a lot of people aren't happy about it:


    It does make me wonder how certain people ever get anything done.
    langteacher and Duke of York like this.
  14. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

    Well Nicholas Witchell clearly didn't know which description to use...

  15. EmanuelShadrack

    EmanuelShadrack Star commenter

    True, but it is useful to be able to describe people (and objects) more specifically.

    A while back I was in this establishment, and talking to a chap who I would describe as "Indian". I'm pretty sure he wouldn't take offence at being described in this way. Anyway, he directed me to one of his colleagues, and described the said colleague as "a big black bloke". I had to wait around until the latter chap appeared. I recognized him given the description I'd been given.

    The description helped me in this instance. I don't see the great benefit of avoiding all references as to what someone looks like.
  16. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

    I have enough problems when referring to those of the Latin Rite.
  17. Dodros

    Dodros Star commenter

    The London School of Oriental and African Studies hasn't (yet) been renamed, although its acronym "SOAS" seems to be preferred nowadays.
  18. Mangleworzle

    Mangleworzle Star commenter

    Orient seems to refer to the east which is only an actual place if you define your starting point, otherwise it continually moves a bit like calling a place "over there".
  19. Dodros

    Dodros Star commenter

    When applying the term "Special Educational Needs and Disabilities" (SEND) to individuals, the correct etiquette in SEND circles is "person with SEND", not "SEND person". The underlying rationale is that human beings should never be completely defined by the needs and disabilities they happen to present.
    needabreak and ilovesooty like this.
  20. red_observer

    red_observer Star commenter

    Old term....no such thing as a good Tory

    New term... no such thing as a good Tory

    Both acceptable

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