I'm trying to get my head around some tricky vowel sounds. Mainly what I want is a clear understanding of the difference in vowel sounds between the words "pot" and "port". There is a clear difference in sound and I can think of plenty of words which rhyme, so as to get the message across to my class. (pot - chaud, beau, flot....) (port - or, fort, Laure...) What I am struggling with is the word "hôpital". Now I am quite happy for "hôtel" to be with my "pot" from above, but I suspect that I personally pronounce the word "hôpital" more like the vowel sound in "port" than in "pot". Also, what then is the correct pronunciation of "novembre"? Does the "no" rhyme with "pot"??? I have spent most of my life learning French south of the Loire, so I suspect my pronunciation may not be standard!