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Discussion in 'Personal' started by JL48, Dec 7, 2019.
Were it not for this skulduggery, Labour would storm into power on a wave of working class support.
Extraordinary such a beneficial change has been postponed by the last 4 Tory governments for 9 years.
A lukewarm reception to RLB's kick-off Op Ed in the Guardian today. She has a lot to do over the next 5 years. .
Unless the Tories do it really badly labour or another has 5 years to prove what they offer is better.
It's going to take much of those 5 years for the electorate to work out what she means by adopting 'progressive patriotism' and rejecting triangulation. (As an example of the former, she cited Lancashire millworkers supporting Abraham Lincoln in 1862 - ah, how we remember it well).
Now there are calls to ditch "Labourism" ... whatever that means...
Tony Blair and his NuLabour lot got in in 1997 by being as tory as the Tories, and for those of you with short or no memories, after a huge number of bent politician scandals. They then went on to be just as bad as the previous Tories in almost all aspects, though some would say worse (me for one). At least initially Tone was honest, and told us what he was going to do, but it did not endear him to me, one bit. So perhaps to save Labour they need to reTonyfy themselves. get some public school educated pseudo-toff to smarm and charm them into power telling massive Johnson style porkies, then preferably introduce a massive socialist agenda. Unfortunately, I see no labour saviour in their ranks.
The last "proper" Labour government were voted out of power 40 years ago. That tells you all you need to know about the appetite for socialism in the UK. Indeed, as far as I am aware socialism is not popular throughout Europe.
I think my old mum had a touch of labourism, but Beechams Pills soon got rid of it.