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A bit of advice for those transferring from state to indy

Discussion in 'Independent' started by Cheerie, Feb 25, 2012.

  1. I have read lots of posts on this thread from people working in state schools hoping to transfer to the indy sector. I am one such person and wanted to post a wee bit of advice - I went for a HoD vacancy and did well in the interviews, did very well in the observed lessons but missed out on the job because I couldn't meet a particular area of expertise in the extra-curricular life of the school. I was advised on feedback from the interview that I was an excellent candidate and had that extra-curricular skill not been needed and it had been a "straight-forward" HoD position, I would very much have been considered for the job. For those of us who work in state schools it seems inconceivable that you wouldn't be offered a job if you were the best candidate for the role just because you couldn't lead an out of school interest, but in the indy sector it is very much the culture to be able to offer far more than just being an exceptional teacher of your subject area. Hope this might help some indy job seekers a little!

  2. Hmmmm.... If you are an excellent HOD and able to lead on academic attainment in your subject, you have to wonder - is a school that would prefer to not have this but have someone who knows the rules of a game and can supervise children playing that game a school you actually want to work in! Go where you are valued for your skills; this may or may not be the indie sector!
  3. jarndyce

    jarndyce Occasional commenter

    Makes you wonder what's wrong with the Games department if their staff aren't up to running a First XV!
  4. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    Traditionally, public schools didn't have games departments, and some still don't. They have a P.E. department, but because the entire school turns out for games (usually on Wednesday and
    Saturday afternoons), most of the academic
    staff are required to help out.
    Usually there are sports professionals (i.e. ex-league or ex-county players) to supervise some of the coaching, but it would never have been feasible to employ a games department of some 40 part-timers just to work 2 afternoons a week.
    More recently, P.E. staff have become much more involved in taking games as well, but the huge Wednesday games afternoon still persists in many schools, requiring large numbers of academic staff to help out with team games (especially since the P.E. staff are often either off-site taking the main teams to away fixtures, or are supervising more specialist sporting activities such as fencing).
    Although it may seem odd, it's far more efficient to turn the whole school out together for an entire afternoon, than to have periods shortened by the need to change before games and shower and change afterwards. Either the games session becomes very short, or other lessons are badly disrupted.
    (Sorry if that's teaching grandma to suck eggs)
  5. jarndyce

    jarndyce Occasional commenter

    No - that's interesting background and explains a couple of things - thanks. (Each of our year groups has their own games afternoon, though a large number of academic staff are involved too).
  6. Hope nobody thinks I was moaning! I can understand why they made their descision, just takes a bit of a mind-shift coming from a state school.


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