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770 test positive and Northumbria University

Discussion in 'Education news' started by botanybod, Oct 2, 2020.

  1. botanybod

    botanybod New commenter

    So it's just been reported that 770 students have tested positive at Northumbria University. Given the size of the outbreak, which eclipses pretty much every other, is it not now time to admit that inviting students back was a terrible idea and send them home? That's pretty much 10% of our daily new cases, a huge number for a single setting. Most people could have predicted that crowding young adults from different parts of the country together in rabbit hutch accomodation would have resulted in an outcome like this. There seems to have been very little robust planning or mitigation involved in opening this autumn. Sweeteners to encourage them to study online from home should surely have been offered, such as a fee reduction, or the option to defer. But I gather universities have not been very flexible, and accomodation contracts are enforced with usual terms and conditions once students have arrived. They all arrived back because they were actively encoraged to do so, with assurances it would all be fine, but it's not all fine is it? What does it matter if lecture halls are half empty, when accomodation is crammed full, of course it's going to spread like wildfire. It's all about the money of course, but it is within the governments ability to mitigate that. The whole thing is an absolute disgrace.
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  2. bessiesmith2

    bessiesmith2 New commenter

    I agree that money seems to have been the driving force to encourage students to return. Of course for 2nd / 3rd year students I can see that they would be keen to return - partway through their courses and having made strong personal friendships. But for freshers I can't really see that this is in their best interests at all.
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  3. Newidentity

    Newidentity Occasional commenter

    The more frightening statistic was that only about 10% of these cases were showing any symptoms.
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  4. colacao17

    colacao17 Lead commenter

    Which is why, if it's to be done seriously, contact tracing needs all contacts to be tested, not just those showing symptoms. Where this has been done, the spread has been slowed dramatically or stopped and community transmission virtually eradicated.

    Uk chose not to do it this way, despite seeing how it worked elsewhere. Why? Lack of resources? Lack of will? Lack of understanding from the decision makers?

    Whichever it was - it was a decision and it could have been different. And Johnson is responsible.
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  5. hankay

    hankay Occasional commenter

    Send 770 infected students back to their homes where they are going to further infect more people across the nation? Do you really think that's the smart thing to do?

    They should just keep insisting that they self-isolate in their accomodation and hopefully they aren't tempted to go out and socialise - which they have clearly been doing already.
  6. Catgirl1964

    Catgirl1964 Senior commenter

    And begs the questions how many school students are also asymptomatic carriers?
  7. ridleyrumpus

    ridleyrumpus Star commenter

    To be fair from a societal POV & if you think no vaccine will be ready for a while, it is probably a good idea to get all those who are very unlikely to die or have serious consequence if they get the virus, together in close proximity and let the virus rip. You would be a complete got to do it but...

    The last thing you would want to do is send them home to spread it in the general community.
  8. ridleyrumpus

    ridleyrumpus Star commenter

    No need to contact trace if you lock them down together.
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  9. colacao17

    colacao17 Lead commenter

    That's great, if they were already locked down together when the first one became infected.
  10. moscowbore

    moscowbore Star commenter

    I have been saying this for weeks.

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