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7 year olds must be able to read 90 words per minute...

Discussion in 'Education news' started by Middlemarch, Oct 1, 2015.

  1. Middlemarch

    Middlemarch Star commenter

  2. Morninglover

    Morninglover Star commenter

    Hmm...I'm told I didn't start reading until I was 7, so I hate to think how a beleaguered KS1 teacher would react to me if I were in their class these days...(50 years ago they just let me drift along until I was ready, I think... Didn't do me any harm!)
  3. lizziescat

    lizziescat Star commenter

    Not primary but..
    .. doesn't it depend what you're reading.
    ATM I'd struggle to read 90 words per minute for some of the stuff I'm reading for my MA

    Well I could 'bark at print' but that's not reading
  4. Sundaytrekker

    Sundaytrekker Star commenter

    Will we sit and time this with a stopwatch? Specifically what type of books should we use? Woe betide any child who pauses to look at a picture! I predict chaotic results next year in primary.
  5. harsh-but-fair

    harsh-but-fair Star commenter

    Books without pictures, natch ...
    snowyhead and Sundaytrekker like this.
  6. Duke of York

    Duke of York Star commenter

    fuxache. They are getting desperate for ideas on how to sod up kids enjoyment of school, ain't they?
  7. lizziescat

    lizziescat Star commenter

    Oh I think there's lots more they can do (but I'm not giving them ideas on here:mad:)
  8. MrMedia

    MrMedia Star commenter

    Pull up Facebook and everyone reads 90wpm, especially little 7 year olds.
  9. snowyhead

    snowyhead Lead commenter

    I can type at 100 wpm. When you measure typing speed it's based on blocks of five letters. Let's test reading speed that way with special books published by Pears@n.

    What next? Children need to be able to run 100 metres in under 15 seconds or they are deemed to be clinically obese.

    Shift over Middlemarch, I need to sit at the foot of your stairs.
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  10. monicabilongame

    monicabilongame Star commenter

    They would in 'Chinese School' as per Bohunt School's experiment - mind you, the kids - as badly behaved as they were to the visiting Chinese staff - did actually score better than the Bohunt kids after 3 weeks of the experiment.
  11. snowyhead

    snowyhead Lead commenter

    The Chinese, tsch. What do they know about teaching? ;)
  12. Middlemarch

    Middlemarch Star commenter

    Always room for like-minded folk!
    snowyhead likes this.
  13. monicabilongame

    monicabilongame Star commenter

    Is this that the kids should be able to read at a rate of 90 words per minute, or that they should be able to read out loud at a rate of 90 words per minute? I can read silently far faster than I can read out loud, as it takes time for my mouth to catch up with my brain.
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  14. snowyhead

    snowyhead Lead commenter

    I should imagine it's reading aloud: a child might be able to answer some questions about the content but that wouldn't necessarily mean they had decoded every word correctly and at speed.

    I have another idea: let's test six year olds on their ability to read a text backwards. If they can read at least 60 wpm backwards it would be indicative of a fluid mindset, a highly developed spatial awareness coupled with the potential to earn at £300K a year more than their peers in twenty years time. It's all true, I've just published the peer reviewed research.

    (By the way does anyone know what I need to do to become a 'prominent contributor'? I have just passed my tenth anniversary on here and have been posting like crazy today. I need status!
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  15. Happyregardless

    Happyregardless Occasional commenter

    Could we perhaps move away from the 'fear motivated' structure of our current society and introduce more 'presence' in teaching reading? For example, being aware of the moment and enjoying the moment/the now whilst reading and fostering this presence in children? Almost every aspect of our society is based on ego driven fear motivation - rushing into the next moment without savouring the current. Yes there still need to be 'measurements' of sorts but the overall basis should be a profound joy and love of reading which will lead to greater speed and fluency in time.

    That said, my ego says, " My mother taught me to read TO PREPARE ME FOR SCHOOL and saw this as part of her role as a parent (why do more parents do this in modern times) and I was fluent early on!" haha
  16. snowyhead

    snowyhead Lead commenter

    But, did your mother teach you to read using pure synthetic phonics or a cheap man-made fibre version of reading that allowed you to look at the pictures or (whispers) encouraged you to sound words out?
  17. monicabilongame

    monicabilongame Star commenter

    My mother taught me to read before I went to school - by the time I was 6 I had read every single book infants 'library' and had to go upstairs to get books from the juniors to read during reading time.
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  18. Morninglover

    Morninglover Star commenter

    This might help:

  19. lizziescat

    lizziescat Star commenter

    A friend of mine surprised his teacher and his mother when he started school and was already able to read. He'd learned from watching the adverts on television.
  20. nick909

    nick909 Star commenter

    Fluency of reading is very important of course but there are bigger obstacles to overcome first. I'd suggest children being engaged by and enjoying reading, of anything at all, is far more important than how quickly they can read at that age. Including being read to as well. Instilling the fear of not being able to read at a fairly arbitrarily chosen rate isn't going to inspire anyone to get better at it. And it will turn off precisely the children we want to turn on to reading.
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