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299 Covid-19 cases in one factory

Discussion in 'Personal' started by Scintillant, Aug 13, 2020.

  1. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-53762233

    Mrs Wightman said Greencore had "highly effective measures in place and they continue to work extremely hard to exceed the requirements needed to be Covid-19 secure within the workplace".

    She said the outbreak was "about how people behave outside of Greencore, not at work," adding if people failed to follow the rules "a possible local lockdown will follow".

    Obviously a huge coincidence that they all work together in the same building.

    Roll on schools opening.
     
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  2. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

    Indeed.
    "He said he tested positive on 4 August, along with his mother and father - who also work at Greencore - and his wife."
     
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  3. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    299 cases in one place indicates a large degree of, er, relatedness then. Even for Northants.

    #onebigfamily
    #keepitinthefamily
     
  4. WolfPaul

    WolfPaul Occasional commenter

    I read that article and had exactly the same reaction as you, Mr Scintillant, but on reflection, I think it's just poor reporting by the BBC. The quote about how people behave outside of work was made by a Mrs Wightman, a health official from the local council, not from the company, and I think she was referring to how the outbreak might play out in the future, rather than the initial cause of it.

    Poor BBC reporting; but that's not new, unfortunately.
     
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  5. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    The reporting is fine. It is clear who says what.

    It's the fact that it's very wrong that I picked up on.
     
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  6. WolfPaul

    WolfPaul Occasional commenter

    It's quite clear who says what, yes, but the context of the quote about behaviour is not clear. It isn't even a complete sentence that is quoted.
     
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  7. LiamD

    LiamD Occasional commenter

    So the behaviour of people outside work caused nearly 300 workers from the same factory to test positive for Covid-19. Really?
     
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  8. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    [​IMG]

    Must be a big employer.
     
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  9. WolfPaul

    WolfPaul Occasional commenter

    I really don't think that's what anyone was trying to claim. But if they were, then yes, they are clearly wrong!
     
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  10. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

    It is a large employer. The company employs 2,100 people and, being located on the northern edge of Northampton, attracts employees from Wellingborough and Kettering - both Covid-19 'hot spots'.
     
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  11. George_Randle

    George_Randle Established commenter

    These factory outbreaks are worrying, but the general trend in the numbers of people with symptomatic covid is downwards, according to the Kings College/Zoe symptom tracker:

    https://covid.joinzoe.com/post/incidence-update-13-aug

    Tim Spector, Professor of Genetic Epidemiology at King's College London, comments:
    “It’s encouraging to see that the numbers are coming down slightly across the UK and that the isolated outbreaks in the North of England appear to be well contained so far. This is further confirmation that we aren’t at the beginning of a second wave and rather, still trying to end the first. The figures also suggest that the outbreaks we are seeing in other countries such as Belgium, France and Spain aren't having an effect here in the UK yet. On top of this, the hot weather which caused concern by making many flock to crowded beaches and parks doesn’t seem to be having the predicted negative impact. Overall, we are pleasantly surprised by the figures this week which are back down to the early July levels and hope that the good news continues.”
     
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  12. chelsea2

    chelsea2 Star commenter

    As is Northampton.

    In the Radio 4 news report it sounded exactly as if employees were being blamed for out-of-work behaviour by Mrs Wightman. She cited, for example, employees following all the protocols set up by the firm at the factory - then car-sharing for transport to and from without wearing face-coverings.

    Whether that is the case, and - if so - whether that has caused the outbreak - no idea.
     
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  13. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

    There is only so much an employer can do. In the same way, I suppose, as a school has no control over the behaviour of its pupils when out of school and out of uniform. Keep the pupils and staff in 'bubbles' as far as the school gate, and then they are out of the school's control.
     
  14. jubilee

    jubilee Star commenter

    ... and when schools go back into 'bubbles' and have lesser protocols in place for staff and pupils, the pupils will also be car and bus sharing without masks. But the outcomes will be different, aparently, because there are children involved and the virus knows not to settle on them.
     
  15. hhhh

    hhhh Star commenter

    Haven't they now said that older children can carry the virus like adults-that yes, primary kids are relatively safe, but that your teenager is just as likely to infect you as an adult? Surely more so, given that she's mixing with so many people in a crowded, badly ventilated place every day?
     
  16. jubilee

    jubilee Star commenter

    My post was tongue-in-cheek. teenagers are mainly social butterflies and will spread the virus like wildfire even if they don't get particularly ill with it themselves.
    Younger pupile may be less likely to pick it up as they lead more cocooned lives generally, but if they do incubate it in noses you can be sure that heir hands will be spreading it around.
     
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  17. Spoofer4114

    Spoofer4114 Lead commenter

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  18. ACOYEAR8

    ACOYEAR8 Star commenter

    " In the Radio 4 news report it sounded exactly as if employees were being blamed for out-of-work behaviour by Mrs Wightman. She cited, for example, employees following all the protocols set up by the firm at the factory - then car-sharing for transport to and from without wearing face-coverings."

    Exactly like students going and fro-ing to school in September. Alongside people 'wearing' masks under their chins, picking up food in shops and then putting it back, among loads of other stupid, stupid stupid things, this virus must be congratulating itself on having found victims of such shuddering stupidity.
     
  19. Bedlam3

    Bedlam3 Star commenter

    I can't understand why Northampton hasn't been locked down. It will just continue to spread. How many cases will be needed before lockdown is declared? It would make more sense to lock down sooner rather than later then lockdown will likely be shorter.
     
  20. Sally006

    Sally006 Lead commenter

    Certainly put off from buying an M&S sandwich!! I gather they are made in this very factory. Cold food producing places yet again (chicken factories a few weeks ago). Seems to me that there is a connection with working temperatures and the workplace here. Some of us know only too well that certain classrooms with ancient heating systems and closed windows will be cold, cramped and unpleasant come winter. Dreading it.
     
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