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20 000 spare, available teachers sign up here please

Discussion in 'Education news' started by Corvuscorax, Nov 24, 2019.

  1. Corvuscorax

    Corvuscorax Star commenter

    I am just making a bit of a head start on behalf of the Lib Dems.

    Lets start collating their list for them

    If you are one of the 20 000 spare, available teachers they are about to appoint, please add your name below.

    Lets see what percentage of their quota we can have ready and waiting
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  2. Corvuscorax

    Corvuscorax Star commenter


    slow down, slow sown.

    we are going to overshoot the target

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  3. gainly

    gainly Star commenter

    I hope catbefriender doesn't mind me quoting this post from Personal.

    If this information is correct there should be no problem finding 20,000 or more available teachers. Of course they may not be teachers of the shortage subjects such as maths and physics.
  4. Jamvic

    Jamvic Star commenter

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  5. Jamvic

    Jamvic Star commenter

    Try it the other way around.

    If you are one of the 20 000 spare, available teachers they haven’t got a cat in hells chance of appointing, please add your name below.

    1. Me
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  6. bessiesmith2

    bessiesmith2 New commenter

    A key question is, would they want to come back? Most teachers I know of who have quit were highly relieved to get out and have no intention of returning.
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  7. gainly

    gainly Star commenter

    Apparently the Lib Dems are also planning to scrap OFSTED. Perhaps that would encourage a few former teachers to return.
  8. catbefriender

    catbefriender Lead commenter

    Here folks is where the info's at


    The current number of qualified teachers aged under 60 (and not in receipt of a pension from the Teachers’ Pension Scheme) that have worked in state funded schools in England and were not employed as at December 2013 is 227.1 thousand. This is lower than the equivalent figure for the period ending December 2012 when there were 230.9 thousand teachers out of service. 12 These figures will include some teachers who are working outside of the state funded sector or in education sectors in the other UK countries. Some teachers do return to service in the state funded sector.

    In addition, there are currently 107.9 thousand teachers aged under 60 (and not in receipt of a pension from the Teachers’ Pension Scheme) that since qualifying have had no recorded service in a state funded school. Some maybe in service outside of the state funded sector or in education sectors in the other UK countries. Some newly qualified teachers with no service will enter service in the future (delayed entry). For example, the latest figures show there are 7.5 thousand teachers that qualified in calendar year 2012 that have no recorded service. The figures published last year for those qualifying in calendar year 2012 showed 9.8 thousand with no recorded service​

    So in 2013 there were 350,000 plus recorded QTSs under 60 and out of the classroom remember we are expected to work until 68 now, so if someone was to check it would probably be nearer around 400,000!

    And remember over 100,000 of them have NEVER completed induction. The number of NQTs never completing induction was increasing sharply when the government stopped recording the data in 2013.

    Says it all.:rolleyes:
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  9. JL48

    JL48 Star commenter

    Just heard from a friend of mine that they are leaving teaching permanently at the end of this year. Citing work / life balance - or lack of it.

    Until society's view on teachers and teaching changes, the exit will continue.
  10. Mrsmumbles

    Mrsmumbles Star commenter

    Only if they axe capability bullying and academies as well. Oh and slap a pay cap on SLT, HT and Academy CEO wages while they’re at it.
  11. Mrsmumbles

    Mrsmumbles Star commenter

    Followed by MPs! Ha!
  12. gainly

    gainly Star commenter

    This plan is slightly more credible than the Tory's promise to recruit 50.000 more nurses.
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  13. Mrsmumbles

    Mrsmumbles Star commenter

    Right, am threadin' up.....
  14. Skeoch

    Skeoch Star commenter

    We also have competing tree planting plans. Labour is the most ambitious (more than the Greens!) at 2 billion by 2040.
    Planting densities range from 1000 to 2500 per hectare. Let's assume 2000, then they'll need a million hectares. Best-case is over the whole UK, about 24 million hectares; worst-case (as I think it's likely that this would be devolved to Scotland, Wales and NI) England is about 13 million hectares. So that's just under 1/6th of the land area of England. Where's this land coming from? And 2 billion works out at about 11000 per hour, assuming 24/7 working.....
  15. Corvuscorax

    Corvuscorax Star commenter

    perhaps they mean bonsai trees?

    perhaps they mean bonsai teachers too?
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