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£190/day Inner London -- I was on UP1 salary

Discussion in 'Supply teaching' started by dani2006, Jul 9, 2016.

  1. dani2006

    dani2006 New commenter

    Hello folks

    I'm getting into one year supply position from September after 10 years of permanent post. I am on UP1 at the moment but the agency will only offer me daily rate equivalent to M^ inner London which is £190/day.

    Is it fair? Should I challenge it? I know schools claim to have massive budget cut. I have no experience of working like this so any advice is appreciated. After tax, according to my calculation anyway, £194 a day isn't not the worst income per month.

    However, I am just slight sceptical about the whole thing.
     
  2. lulu57

    lulu57 Lead commenter

    I taught for over 25 years, was on UP3 and am now paid £135 a day (though not in London).
    'Tis the nature of the beast, apparently, unless you go freelance.
     
  3. Alldone

    Alldone Senior commenter

    It also depends on the subject. I'm retired but was begged by a local school to teach A level and GCSE Physics classes up to their exams. I turned them down, but a friend of mine agreed and was paid £240 a day direct from the school.
     
  4. pepper5

    pepper5 Star commenter

    Dani

    If your agency is paying you PAYE they will also be paying NI contributions, so £190 per day sounds fair.

    If you work directly for a school and not through an agency, then you can ask for more since you won't be sharing the fee charged to the school with an agency.
     
  5. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    Count yourself very, very lucky to be getting that much.
     
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  6. nearmiss

    nearmiss Lead commenter

    This is the shape of things to come. STEM teachers will be able to hold schools to ransom. It's a fact there is a national shortage of STEM subject specialists. The government has been criticised by NFER, the Commons Select Committee and Headteachers for having no plan. No strategy whatsoever for hiring and retaining specialists.
    So now they can literally name their price.
    Peakster, you should put on for a rise and future proof your family's finances.
     
    Last edited: Jul 10, 2016
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  7. pepper5

    pepper5 Star commenter

    Another layer of problem is that once schools do find science and maths teachers they don't work hard enough to keep them. I have seen teachers with classes that desperately need a TA, but they don't have one. Class sizes are creeping up and the behaviour in some schools is very difficult. Some schools don't seem to care. Once teachers are trained, they leave within 5 years.
     
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  8. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    I'm actually quite content with what I earn actually nearmiss - I have (as they say) fingers in more than one pie.
     
  9. Jolly_Roger1

    Jolly_Roger1 Star commenter

    I dream of getting £190 per day, for supply work. Even £90 is generous these days!
     
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  10. splinters

    splinters Established commenter

    £190 is £3 more than the UPS2 pay rate up north so I wouldn't grumble.
    As for STEM subjects holding schools to ransom, sadly its only the S&M the schools are interested in. Read that any way you want ;-)
     
  11. dani2006

    dani2006 New commenter

    Very interesting responses, it shows how the profession is devalued. We deserve £250/day minimum for the job we do.
    Working with agency means we won't be paid in the holidays and that's my big worry. I am a Computer Science teacher which has some advantages.
     
  12. pepper5

    pepper5 Star commenter

    dani2006

    You don't have to work through an agency; you could try and contact schools directly.
     
  13. sebedina

    sebedina Occasional commenter

    I agree, if I am lucky I can negotiate £135 or a bit more... Mostly I get £125 and I am in London and I teach a core subject and I am experienced. I recently negotiated £145 for a long term role. I probably could have got more. However, I have come across some people who are on less than £125.
     

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